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Old 08-04-2005, 05:04 PM   #572
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You'd understand any 'meaning' you 'found' theat was not Tolkien's intended meaning, because that would be what you had brought to it from your own experience.
No, the meaning that I draw from it is my experience. It is, of course, influenced by my own (past) experience and by Tolkien's intended meaning (to the extent apparent), and no doubt by many other factors.

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To think I should have lived to see a Lawyer be so dismissive of 'semantics'
Dismissive? Surely not, given that it has formed the basis of the difference between us for the last two pages or so. I just thought that the time had come to let on.

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I wasn't referring to the 'message', because, as Tolkien said in the Foreword:

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As for any inner meaning or 'message', it has in the intention of the author none. (my emphasis)
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Tolkien had a very clear idea of the 'meaning' or 'message' he wanted to communicate.
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