I have been thinking of Thingol and Elrond. The more I think about it, Elrond is extremely good and wise, and Thingol (hm... my english is not the best, but opposite of Elrond)
What Thingol asked of Beren was something close to completely impossible. A great army, lead by Fëanor, greatest of all Noldor, couldn't accomplish it.
And Thingol must have known that if Beren succeded (which was not impossible, n enormous fate lay upon him), it would not be good for ME. When thinking abouT the oath of Fëanor, the best place for the silmarills may have been Morgoth's crown!
Thingols decission was made out of selfishnes. Also, Luthien opposed him several times, even fled him, Arwen didn't do anything like that i think.
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And with that he lifted high his sword and flames ran down the blade
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