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Old 10-12-2002, 08:37 PM   #12
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what do you mean Elves were not "see you in Heaven"? I haven't studied up on the order of things after Death, but I don't think Tolkien would put something so "reencarnation"-esque into LotR.
I'm not entirely sure what you mean by this, but Elves usually (with just one or two exceptions) reincarnate after they were killed. It was their nature. They did not "die" in the strictest sense. Death was forever leaving the "Circles of the World" for parts unknown. That was the Gift of Men. Elves did not leave the world, except in the cases of Luthien and Arwen. After a certain period of time in Mandos the Elves would be reincarnated because it was their nature to live in Arda and only Eru could change that fate.

If Arwen had decided to retain immortality, then she most certainly would never see Aragorn again because his soul had gone beyond the world, never to return. So, she decided to die with him and pass out of the world because that way there was at least a chance that she might see him again. No guarantee though. We don't know what they did "beyond the Circles of the World." It is entirely possible that the spirits of Men (and two Elves) never had anything to do with each other.

After The End, the theory is that everyone is brought back into the world and it is remade and everyone lives in harmony, but that is just a theory, we don't really know.

[ October 12, 2002: Message edited by: Kuruharan ]
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