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Old 11-14-2002, 11:15 AM   #18
lindil
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Rimbaud nails it, methinks.

The Noldors 'great achievements' were almost all bound up with what JRRT repeatedly calls their 'Fall'.

The Vanyar never 'fell'.

As for the skill in fighting - it was they that composed the bulk of the army that overthrew Morgoth. So they must have learned something re: fighting before leaving Valinor it would seem.

but what is Yoda's saying?

hmm... a great warrior you are looking for... hmmmm... wars to dot make one great!

Vanyar are the height of Elvish civilization. I will agree that reading their history would not be as tantalizing [initially at least]as that of their cousins.

[ November 14, 2002: Message edited by: lindil ]
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