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11-13-2002, 08:13 PM

I have a problem thinking of the Vanyar as the greatest. Most obedient, yes. Most peaceful, yes. Smartest? Debatable, but possibly.

But greatest? Not in my opinion. The Noldor were the ones who revolutionized elvish written language. They were the ones who perfected swordcraft and metalwork. The Noldor were responsible for the craftmanship of the Silmarils, and it could be said that it was the acts of the Noldor that led to the downfall of Morgoth. They are also directly responsible for the creation of a star (Earendil), and there is no debate that the Noldor were the ancestors for every important character in Lord of the Rings.

Can the Vanyar claim any of this? What can the Vanyar claim? Simply that they were obedient and peaceful. Not bad things, certainly, but also certainly not to the level of those things accomplished by the Noldor.

11-13-2002, 08:13 PM	#13
Annii Guest Posts: n/a	I have a problem thinking of the Vanyar as the greatest. Most obedient, yes. Most peaceful, yes. Smartest? Debatable, but possibly. But greatest? Not in my opinion. The Noldor were the ones who revolutionized elvish written language. They were the ones who perfected swordcraft and metalwork. The Noldor were responsible for the craftmanship of the Silmarils, and it could be said that it was the acts of the Noldor that led to the downfall of Morgoth. They are also directly responsible for the creation of a star (Earendil), and there is no debate that the Noldor were the ancestors for every important character in Lord of the Rings. Can the Vanyar claim any of this? What can the Vanyar claim? Simply that they were obedient and peaceful. Not bad things, certainly, but also certainly not to the level of those things accomplished by the Noldor.