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Old 10-25-2003, 12:22 AM   #36
Arwen1858
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Aiwendil said:
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Well (and I suppose it would have been good to have asked this up front), what exactly do you mean by "happy" and "fulfilled"? If what you mean is simply what these words suggest at face value - that is, a simple state of mind - then you are on rather shaky ground in making claims about what other people secretly feel.
The definition given in the dictionary for fulfill that goes along with this discussion it 'to satisfy.' Are those people, who are living the immoral lives, satisfied? Do they have everything they desire? Are they completely happy with everything they have and everything they've done? I doubt that.
Kuruharan said:
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Does money really bring that sort of happiness? It seems to me to be an insatiable desire. You constantly have to have more and more of it. To say that this ravenous appetite brings fulfillment is to say that there is fulfillment in being unfulfilled.
I think that can be seen in the lives of some athletes. How many of them have millions, and make millions a year, but complain that they don't get enough, or take a job with another team so they can get more? I mean, how many millions do they really need?? Some of them aren't happy with the millions they already get, and want another million or so. Because they aren't satisfied. Like Kuruharan said: it's insatiable. You constantly need more and more. And by the way, I'm not saying all athletes are like that. Not at all. Just making a point.
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