Ghost-Prince of Cardolan
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Re: Hmm
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Originally Posted by Gwaihir
Goldberry is a Maia, a lesser spirit of Ulmo. Why would she marry Tom if he was not one also?
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Originally Posted by enep
I disagree. Melian married Thingol. It may be the only Maia-Elder relationship, but it does dispute that point you make
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Originally Posted by JRRT
Immortality and Mortality being the special gifts of God to the Eruhini (in whose conception and creation the Valar had no part at all) it must be assumed that no alteration of their fundamental kind could be effected by the Valar even in one case: the cases of Lúthien (and Túor) and the position of their descendants was a direct act of God. The entering into Men of the Elven-strain is indeed represented as part of a Divine Plan for the ennoblement of the Human Race, from the beginning destined to replace the Elves
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Ennoblment was made via Melian-Thingol-Luthien-Beren-Idril-Tuor and the line was reunited Arwen-Aragorn so to obtain the right to be rulers of all Men. So no furhter
ennoblments were needed nor allowed by Eru, so I assume Gwaihir was right. And if anybody gives a counter argument of Imrahil and his ancestors, - Imrahil was simply reported to have strain of elven blood in his vains, not proved to have one indeed, as I understand