Thread: Fear of Lorien
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Old 10-16-2003, 03:17 AM   #16
Gwaihir the Windlord
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Galadriel was, most certainly, one tough adversary to match for the balrog, since the balrog had fallen before when facing powerful elven lords? What could he do against the mightiest of the eldar (not counted Luthien and equal to Feanor)
I might refer you to burrahobbit's post there, Iarhen. A Balrog would most certainly have defeated Galadriel (actually well over 5000 years old, tinewelt [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]) in combat; she was not a warrior (tch).

Although burra, I'm not going to accept that post in its entirety. The stupid elven rings? Hmm, well obviously this is rather a 'stupid' thing to say in itself (not applied to the assertion of Iarhen, but to the power of Nenya in Lorien).

The power in Lorien can be compared to Melian's Girdle, that happens to be a fact of Middle-Earth -- it can be. The 'power' that dwelt in Lothlorien was clearly Galadriel with her Ring; that's the whole point.

Thus Gurthang's statement:
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And another thing, the rings were made to aid in the creation of beautiful things, not for attacks and war. They may have been able to defend(Lorien and Rivendell) but could not have repelled any creatures. The fear was probably caused by the heavy resistence that the elves caused when anything evil tried to enter the woods. They loved them dearly, thought them sacred, and would not suffer any but their kindred to enter.
The fear was caused by the fact that Lorien was a mysterious, shadowy and above all fearful thing, that no-one knew much about. I don't know whether the ignorant masses of the Orcs would have feared it -- the ones that pursued the company from Moria didn't seem to be aware of their peril -- but Men certainly did, for the reasons that Finwe says.

But if you are implying that the 'power' of Lothlorien was in fact the 'valour of the people of that land', you are incorrect. The two are 'apart from' one another.

Who does not 'believe' that the power was the Nenya-bearing Galadriel? It doesn't matter, but I've got the feeling that people are getting somewhat misguided...

[ October 16, 2003: Message edited by: Gwaihir the Windlord ]
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