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Old 10-16-2024, 10:37 AM   #2
Findegil
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I disagree to this "Dunedain focused" fiew! I agree that we know not enough of the eastern houses to be sure on anything.

But my idea would be that if the Numenorean RIng bearers represent the three Houses of the Edain, the remains of these Houses in Middle-Earth shouldn't get a Ring. That would be like Dúrin holding one Rings and the Comander of the mines in the Iron Hills get a nother one so he is remote a Cousin of Durin. (If he comes from an other House, he might get it)

If this theory should hiold any water it has to be more absolute: The Ringbearers must not all be Kings, but they are high ranking members of the society they life in. Saurons plan, at least, was to control these societies by controlling their leaders by means of the Rings. That plan failed in all cases (at least in the long run, as fare as we know). So the motive to include all houses of a race would be the idea of the ringbearer becoming with the help of and the driven by the ring the uncontested leader of that house. In the Numenorean cases that would include the Middle-earth branches of the same house (at the time Sauron distributed the Rings, that was not unthinkable, and we could assume that the changing from friendly and beneficial visitors to wealth seeking opressors was in part initiated by the influence of the Rings on the Numenorean bearers).

Now for the 3 Numenorean bears I have nothing to add to Huinesoron's through analysis. But for the other 6 I doubt any connection farther connection to the three Houses of the Edain. I would rather look to the Houses of the Easterlings: Ulfdor and Bor. So we can not know if Khamul had any connection to these Houses. If not I would rather think 3 for the western Houses (Edain => Nomenorians), three for the Easterlings, and three for the Southeners.

Now that leaves out the Hobbits and the Drûg, but I am not much concerned about that. They seemed to considered like side brenches of Men kind, like to the Petty Dwarves.

Respectfuly
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