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			Thanks, Annunfuiniel.   [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] 
 I thought the person in the 6th referred to the answer to the 5th - although I was wondering about the reference to his brother, since I was pretty sure Turin had none.   [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]
 
 Here's my offering:
 
 1st is the first of one who was Golden
 2nd is the last of a name given to a sister of everyone's favourite tragic hero
 3rd and 4th are the beginning of a realm established by one of the Fellowship
 
 That should be enough clues, but more will follow in the absence of any answer ...
 
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