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So while I have a bit of time, I'm going to go through and take a look at something I consider very suspicious: the way Lommy talks about Boro in the context of the late Mac voters - or rather, the way she really doesn't talk about him at all. To begin with, she goes through the votes themselves:

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Sally -> Macalaure 4

Another one who steered clear of the Huine issue, wondered aloud if she should vote Mac or Lottie. Went for Mac who had more votes of the two at the time when Huine was rapidly gaining more votes. Extremely dubious vote - especially if we take into account that at least to me at this point Huine didn't seem like a "lost case" at all.

Inzil -> Macalaure 5

"Because I distrust Lottie, and to a lesser extent, Pitch." Huh? Basically implied without straight up saying so that he would prefer not to lynch Huinesoron. The placement of this vote is pretty dodgy, but Inzil's last minute "Watch Huey be a wolf. " (after the lynch was resolved but the deadline had not come yet) has a very innocent ring to me.

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Boro -> Mac 6

Claims to have crossposted, I'm not sure with quite how many votes. Still, clearly a vote that was - intentionally or unintentionally - towards saving Huinesoron. Therefore, deserves scrutiny.

Sally, Zil, and Boro all post at essentially the same time, especially given that Boro's vote is crossposted. She takes a much harder line on Sally and Zil, but acknowledges that Boro's vote "deserves scrutiny" as well.

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Can I start giving paranoid wolf awards? YesterDay Mac and Brinn for thinking they're being framed by the Rikae kill, toDay Sally and Inzil being convinced they're done for. None of that looks very innocent to me.

Sally looks very furry to me right now. She did before, her vote was the worst, and her apologetic attitude toDay is not helping her cause at all. Fishy fishy lupine fish.

Here, Lommy is responding to Zil, and brings up Sally, linking them as both being late Mac users. She does not mention Boro here, though I believe she responds to his calling votes against her "throw-away" later in that post.

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Bear watching

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Boro - oscillating between weird Boro and normal Boro in this game. The glimpses of normal Boro I have seen have been mostly very reassuring to me, but his yesterDay's vote makes me more wary of him again.

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Bear even more watching (trying to differentiate here because I realised I put like 80% of the village in the same category)

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Would seriously consider quarantining

Zil - I used to think him quite innocent, and also was reluctant to join the chorus of lowkey Zil suspicion which seemed to be based on nothing more than the usual kneejerk "suspicious vibe" that always surrounds him - as I said, he's generally someone who's quite easy to get lynched so it makes sense for wolves to keep him on a suspicion list. But he's making me very uneasy now with his dodgy vote yesterDay, his fatalistic attitude about getting lynched toDay, and being fixated only on a few villagers (as someone said, convenient if he's a wolf thinking he's getting the axe).

Mac - okay, I hate to say this, but he has started to seem a lot more innocent to me. Like, my gut feeling is a lot better, but my logic still cannot fathom why innocent Mac would have acted the way he did yesterDay. Greenie summarised this quite well in her #666.

Sally - Eeevil cupcake. Eeeevil. Has been suspiciously safe in her choices since the beginning, tried to save Huine yesterDay, toDay first seemed to have given up and now is trying to convince people she'd have bussed a fellow!Huine. There's nothing innocent in this mix. Certainly my main suspect at the moment.

Here, Lommy puts Boro two full suspicion categories above Sally and Zil, saying only that his vote makes her "more wary of him". She is not really suspecting Boro at all, placing him in the company of me, Kath, Lhuna, and Rune - largely people who didn't vote for either Huin or Mac - even though he should be just as suspicious as Zil and Sally, since he did exactly the same thing they did.

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

But if it comforts you, I still suspect Sally more and I'm not sure two wolves would have done the same fishy packmate-saving move with similarly incriminating timing.

So just as a statement: I'd prefer to lynch Sally toDay because the evidence against her is pretty overwhelming, but I'm not opposed to Zil or Mac.

Responding to Zil again. Lommy isn't considering Boro as an option at all, and isn't including him in the group of late Mac voters. She continues to push Sally over Zil.

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

It is possible but why is it *likely*, Sally? Even if you were innocent yourself, you should have no idea about Zil. Addendum: oh, so this is just about maths? Not a very strong argument, given that maths doesn't take into account that you both voted to save a known wolf.

Here she is asking why Sally doesn't think it likely that she and Zil are wolves. Again, she doesn't mention that Boro also did the same thing, which actually would have strengthened Lommy's argument: one in three is more statistically likely than one in two.

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

I voted Mac before no one even half seriously suggested Huey was a vote candidate. The bandwagon against him came totally out of the blue for me. Therefore, my vote was in no way related to Huey. While Sally, yourself, and a few others voted Mac after Huey as a possible vote candidate. I don't see how does this not make you more likely wolves?? Of course, my vote doesn't make me innocent or you guys' votes don't make you guilty (case in point: Sally), but I was talking about probabilities. It is more probable for a vote that put someone else ahead of a known wolf to be a wolf's vote than for an average vote to be a wolf's vote. I understand if you disagree with my suspicion, but I don't understand if you disagree with the logical principle behind it.

This was toDay, responding to Zil's comment that Lommy also voted for Mac. Here she says that "Sally, yourself [Zil], and a few others voted Mac after Huey as a possible vote candidate." What I find interesting is that the few others is actually just Boro. Unless you count Shasta, which I don't.

In her very first post after Huin was quarantined, Lommy said that Boro's vote deserves scrutiny, but then proceeds to not mention it at all when talking about how the group of late Mac voters are suspicious. She only brings it up again in a list, where she places Boro in the second-best category but claims his vote makes her wary. Lommy strongly pushed suspicion of that group of people, while completely ignoring the third person in the group. If Lommy and Boro are packmates, this would have been Lommy pushing suspicion for votes like Boro's exclusively onto innocents (or an innocent and a wolf who was already under suspicion, if Zil is evil) who happened to vote the same way Boro did. If this strategy works, we would have lynched Sally yesterDay, Zil toDay if we still wanted to pursue that line of questioning, and we probably would have gotten distracted by something else long before we got around to Boro. This would be a great strategy for the wolves! I suspect that Lommy and Boro are packmates, and I would absolutely be willing to vote for one of them toDay.