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					Originally Posted by  Urwen
					 
				 
				Self-defense is still technically murder, despite being excusable. 
 
 
See it for yourself: 
 
This is what it looked like from Maeglin's perspective. 
			
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 Or, how about
: when you get into a fight you hope to win but you also accept the possibility that you lose? What do you want - for Maeglin to be allowed to initiate a match but without fear of consequences? The possible consequences are the same for both parties.