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Old 04-18-2016, 08:37 PM   #58
Ivriniel
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A second brief post to put the questions:

On Doom: presumably any union with half-elven offspring (noting that Mandos, the Gatekeeper watches the living and the dead) can, by way of Doom can access the equivalent of the descendants of Earendil and Elwing. Why should Mandos never give it consideration again, after a first precedent? (Gilmith is the burning exception to Canon because it is a *fourth* union of Elves and Men. Then Dol Amroth is also a *fifth*, because it's peoples are, I suspect, blended with Elves from Edhellond).

In general, Doom in Middle Earth went to any heroic being. Exemptions to the Grace of passage (related topic) of access to the Straight Road also exist in Frodo, Bilbo - and Sam (Ringbearers), Gimli (significant bond to an Elf during a period of critical history).

Because an actual physical 'body' of half-half can sustain immortality, this also implies that 3/4 casts, etc can also. (That earlier comments raising the item about 'degree of blood'. This must mean that the presence of some human blood does not disrupt potential for immortality.

It is either of a Door Keeping event (Mandos watches the living and the dead) or is it a function of Fea, because some Fea are exceptionally potent, burning or radiant. Presumably this must affect questions of Doom as well.
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