[Rikae]

Maybe my inclination to be suspicious of the Nog-wagon comes from the fact that I, myself, thought he looked quite innocent. His arguments against
the message-sending between threads seemed like normal 5 am Nog stuff. I mean, it looks like he overlooked some points while being quite vehement about
what he thought was best for the village & for everybody's enjoyment of the game in general. He jumped to conclusions a bit.
Why would a wolf act like that? As an elaborate way of looking innocent which also draws attention to himself? Seems unwise, not something Nogwolf would do.
Wanting to mess up communication between the dead and living? Well, a wolf could do that later, and more subtly.
Going on record as being against it on Day 1 just doesn't look wolfish to me.

Form also looks somewhat good for volunteering for the tie vote and self-voting, but I wouldn't put it entirely past a wolf. Doing so early on a wolf could
reasonably expect another wagon, with more behind it, to overtake them - especially with so many people opposing the idea of a tie.

The wishy-washiness of Firefoot's suspicions is the sort that often
strikes me as wolfy fishing "let's put forward some candidates but not commit, see if anyone nibbles".

Originally Posted by Boro

I'm getting suspicious of these couple folks who seem to be pushing Rune was looking gifted and that's why he was killed. I didn't see anything that would make me think Rune was the Seer...
I guess he could be one of the other gifteds, but seriously, nothing in his posts stood out that he was leaving gifted clues.

Well, I thought he might be gifted, because of his reaction to the Day 1 lynch/no lynch business. It's why I made such a point of "we shouldn't lynch people who always look suspicious"
- I was thinking specifically of Rune. I mean, there are a couple others, but after seeing his reaction I particularly thought he shouldn't be lynched.

Anyway, on the Nog wagon:

Boro voted Nog.

Phantom said:

Originally Posted by phantom

I still want to lynch Nog (and I don't understand how he has zero votes), but it would take five votes at this point.
(EDIT: Now he does have one.)

That... that's a pretty clear statement of intent, a sort of call to arms. I begin to wonder if:
tp was a wolf thinking Nog was gifted, calling the other wolves to the "hunt"? Seems far fetched. Or...
tp was innocent, Nog was a wolf, and they killed him last Night as a possible seer? I mean, everyone's going "tp was killed for being tp" or even "for asking to be killed",
but those seem like flimsy reasons.
It could be also that tp, as a wolf, thought he saw an opposing wolf in Nog.
There is, by the way, some benefit to a wolf in being instrumental in lynching another wolf. Most likely the lynched wolf's role will eventually come out, after all.
What I don't buy is that tp actually suspected Nog for opposing his plan.

I voted Lommy. I was hoping to get another candidate going there, as I found her argument with Agan reflected worse on her than on Agan - but nobody notices me, boo hoo.
Mac crossed with me to vote Agan.

The phantom votes Nog.

Now, this is the thing: anyone who wanted to save Agan at this point could have gone for Form, or for Lommy who was even with Nog.

Also, anyone who wanted to save Nog had Lommy, Form and Agan as options.

Loslote votes for Nog within a minute of tp.

Originally Posted by Loslote

because I'm much more confident in his guilt than in Agan's, and I'm feeling a little stubborn today, even if it probably won't happen.

By doing so she puts him ahead of Lommy and even with Form. If the vote was crossed, she would have thought it was even with Lommy and behind Form.
Lottie, was this a crossed vote or not? You didn't mark it as one.

Eomer votes for Nog, giving him the 4th vote, to Agan's 5. His reasoning...

Originally Posted by Eomer

This is total chaos, but because I don't buy the whole Agan/Lommy thing as wolvish - and because Form is probably innocent

is something I could see coming from either a wolf or an innocent.

Shasta votes Nog, crossed with Eomer.

Originally Posted by Shasta

It ended up being between Agan and Nog for me, and Nog's possible groundwork-laying for suspecting anyone on the grounds of not wanting to be lynched looks more suspicious than Agan's possible slip and general defensiveness.

This also looks more or less reasonable. I don't agree with it, but it doesn't seem particularly suspicious.

At this point Nog and Agan are tied, and along comes Sally and decides the lynch (she could also have left it a tie, if she wished).

Ok, so, a couple thoughts:

The Nog-wagon probably wasn't about protecting Agan.
It is possible that someone early in it wanted to protect Lommy (tp, Lottie) or Form (Lottie, Eomer).
Lottie and Sally need a closer look, I think.

That's all for now. I probably won't be around again until this evening.