Originally posted by Jallanite:
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I do not see that Sam’s listening in on the Orcs telepathically enables either Sam or Sauron to dominate the wills of those Orcs. The Orcs are not even bearers of other Rings of Power.
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Although i still dont understand why you include Sauron in your Statement ... You are right that Sam did not actually dominate the Orcs with the help of the One Ring.
But: he took the necessary first step, he "intruded" their mind. The One Ring seemed to somehow enhance the powers of Osanwe the respective bearer had. Sam, as a Hobbit (and a naturally incarnate being), has a very limited innate capability of Osanwe. But (with the help of the ring) he is able to somewhat read the mind of the orcs. Now I would speculate that Sam has a stronger Will than the run of the mill low-life snaga that has been put down his entire life - i think its entirely possible that even a Hobbit like Sam (quite low-ranking on the Arda-powerscale) would after a little training be capable, when wearing the One Ring, to dominate the will of minor orcs like that in a direct confrontation.
But maybe the episode with Sam in Cirith Ungol isnt the best example to use ... Tolkien does not state directly that it was the Ring that made it possible for Sam to understand the Orcs, its possible that they were speaking an Orc-Slang of Westron and Sam only thought he could understand them because of the Ring.
(The second instance is also problematic because Sam is not actually wearing but merely "grabbing" the Ring - maybe Saurons contained power "emanated" from it and gave Sam some sort of "Aura". Quote: "For what it (the orc) saw was not a small frightened hobbit trying to hold a steady sword: it saw a great silent shape, cloaked in a grey shadow, looming against the wavering light behind; in one hand it held a sword, the very light of which was a bitter pain, the other was clutched at its breast, but held concealed some nameless menace of power and doom." It seems that the orc was afraid of the Ring.)