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Old 06-29-2014, 09:08 AM   #373
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Macalysis

Mac and Lommy
Day1: ic banter. Lommy suspects Nerwen for piggybacking on Mac's point and throwing suspicion around. Mac thinks Lommy is a bit overeager to jump on Nerwen. Mac finds Lommy's ominous maths suspicious but think it would be bold for a wolf. Mac puts Lommy in the "no clue" category. Lommy is baffled by Mac being more chaotic than in previous games. When discussing potential vote candidates, Lommy doesn't find Mac particularly suspicious.
Day2: Mac considers Lommy's Day1 vote fishy. Lommy flip-flops on whether G55 was killed for looking like a seer, concludes that if yes, Mac and/or Volo are most likely behind it. Lommy files Mac under "no idea", think he's most likely an ordo or a lover. Lommy points out Mac omitted her from his suspicion list, he puts her in his unsure category. Lommy would prefer Inzil's lynch over Mac's, but has the feeling the Inzil-Mac war is not leading anywhere.
Conclusions: I have the feeling I might not be qualified to judge.

Mac and Boro
Day1: ic banter. Mac files Boro as "somewhat fishy".
Day2: Mac mentions the possibility of Boro being a seer-dreamed innocent. Mac considers Boro's Day1 vote fishy. Mac classifies Boro as fairly neutral.
Conclusions: Could be anything.

Mac and Inzil
Day1: mild suspicion against each other. Mac files Inzil as "somewhat fishy" and votes him (2nd vote).
Day2: Inzil says he would've voted Mac on Day1, had he seen his slip. Still he agrees with Rikae that killing Gal would've been risky for wolf-Mac. Mac considers Zil's Day1 vote fishy. Mac clarifes for Kit that he suspected Zil on Day1 because Zil was so quick to suspect him over something very minor. Zil understand Mac's vote on him better than Boro's. Mac keeps suspecting Inzil. Mac makes a case against Inzil. Mac lists Inzil as suspicious. Inzil refuses to make a case for his defense, saying he's justified his actions already. Inzil votes Mac, saying his role would shed light on others'.
Conclusions: Mac voted Inzil on both days. Inzil suspcted Mac on both days but only voted him on Day2. Some of the suspicion between them was bantery and wishy-washy ("we always suspect each other"), sometimes they brought up actual points against each other and were quite vehemently at each others' throats, which would be rather risky especially in a village with a bear. I think Inzil looks fairly good but we can't definitely exonerate him yet.

Mac and Encai
Day1: Mac discusses Encai's words on Inzil. He also considers her innocent.
Day2: Encai agrees with Mac about Wilwa's possible dreams. Mac considers Encai's Day1 vote neutral. Mac lists Encai as fairly neutral.
Conclusions: could be anything.

Mac and Eomer
Day1: Discuss the hunter together. Mac puts Eomer in the "no clue" category. Banter about the bear. Mac finishes the Day with feeling better about Eomer. Eomer points out that the "Mac-voters, G55 and Wyth, are also very curious..."
Day2: Mac considers Eomer's Day1 vote fishy. Eomer thinks Mac looks fairly innocent but says he's fine if the rest of the village wants to lynch him. Mac lists Eomer as suspicious.
Conclusions: A little fishy. Mac suddenly starting to suspect Eomer on Day2 after clearing him in the end of Day1 could either be a wolf in search of people to call guilty, or it could be a wolf seeing the possibility of getting lynched and trying to make a fellow look better by throwing suspicion at them. Also if Eomer and Mac were wolves together and Mac was in danger of lynching I could see Eomerwolf trying to get someone else lynched but underlining that he's ok with Mac getting lynched too. Then again he does it in such an in-your-face manner that he would be quite bold.

Mac and Kitanna
Day1: Mac mildly suspects Kit and files her as "somewhat fishy".
Day2: Mac mentions the possibility of Kit being a seer-dreamed innocent. Kitanna discusses the hunter discussion Mac took part in on Day1 but doesn't conclude whether he looks more guilty or not. Kitanna questions Mac's Day1 suspicions. Mac considers Kitanna's Day1 vote innocentish. Kitanna thinks Mac looks fairly innocent except for his relation to Wilwa. Kitanna thinks that the Mac-voters from Day1 bear having a look at, and considers Mac himself fairly innocent unless he's the bear. Mac lists Kitanna as fairly innocent.
Conclusions: this doesn't really make me any less suspicious of Kitanna. There's a lot of flip-flopping back and forth and casual suspicion that wouldn't materialize into votes on both sides.

Mac and Rikae
Day1: lots of bear discussion and banter. Mac considers Rikae innocent.
Day2: Rikae discusses Mac and Wilwa's interactions in the light of Wilwa getting bear-killed. Doesn't really reach a conclusion. Mac mentions the possibility of Rikae being a seer-dreamed innocent. Rikae talks with Inzil about killing Galadriel being risky for wolf-Mac. She's wary of Mac, but mostly because he looks like a potential lover. Mac considers Rikae's Day1 vote innocentish. Rikae maintains that Mac probably isn't a wolf who thought G55 the seer. Rikae and Mac keep talking about the Day1 role discussion. Rikae summarizes that she's unsure about Mac, options seem to be innocent and bear. Mac lists Rikae as fairly innocent.
Conclusions: Nothing too incriminating, except from past experience I'm a little baffled why isn't Rikae toDay all "you wretched Mac fooled me and were a wolf all along" but rather just amused that he turned out to be a wolf. It's almost like she's not very surprised, which she ought to be if she thought he's an ordo or a lover. As for Mac's behavior towards her, I can see a wolf-Mac having good reasons to consider both wolf-Rikae and innocent-Rikae innocent, so that doesn't give us much.

Mac and Lottie
Day1: Lottie considers Mac fairly innocent. Mac is not too concerned about her.
Day2: Mac considers Lottie's Day1 vote neutral. Lottie puts Mac and Inzil as her top suspects and suggests they're in cahoots. Mac defends himself to Lottie. Lottie decides to vote Zil instead of Mac but maintains they're probably wolves together. Mac lists Lottie as fairly neutral.
Conclusions: Okay, so Lottie picking Zil instead of Mac when she needs to make a decision is slightly fishy, but I wonder if as a wolf she would decide to commit like 90% of her energy on Day2 to suspecting her fellow and an unknown for being in cahoots. Seems a little unlikely, as I maintain that it's more likely the wolves would not try to cast too much suspicion on each other in a village with a bear.

Mac and Nog
Day1: Nog is very confused by Mac's fake hunter reveal. Mac puts Nog in the "no clue" category. Nog gives Mac his fourth vote, although he cross posts with Greenie who gives the third vote.
Day2: Mac considers Nog's Day1 vote neutral. Nog considers it possible that wolf-Mac wanted to kill seer-looking G55, but thinks Volo is more likely the culprit. Mac lists Nog as fairly neutral. Mac argues that Nog's vote on him doesn't look lion-on-lion. Nog is not thrilled about the vote options (including Mac), but ends up giving him his fifth vote, indicating he thinks Mac is more likely to be the bear than a wolf.
Conclusions: In theory, Nog looks fairly good for being an active part of a Macwagon on both Days. Then again, he does possibly try to get someone else than Mac lynched on Day2 before he gives up, and I honestly have no idea what on earth is Mac saying when he's stating that Nog and Greenie's votes on him don't look wolf-on-wolf. Also saying like 2min before the DL that Mac is probably the bear would be a nice touch from a fellow wolf. I'm undecided.

Mac and Eönwe
Day1: Mac notes Eönwë's absence. Eönwë disagrees with Mac about the hunter, and says that Mac (along with a bunch of other people) has said stuff he disagrees with so he'll have a look at him the next Day.
Day2: Mac considers Eönwë's Day1 vote neutral. Mac lists Eönwë as fairly neutral. Eönwë lists Mac as "worrying" without clarifying why. Eönwë gives Mac his 6th vote, cross-posting with Nogrod though. Implies he'd be happy to see either of Zil or Mac to go.
Conclusion: I think Eönwë looks fairly good because of his suspicion of Mac that doesn't look too wolf-on-wolfy, although of course I can't be sure about him either.

Mac and Greenie
Day1: Mac notes her absence. Greenie agrees with me that Mac is oddly chaotic and points out his famous "on your side" slip. Gives Mac his third vote.
Day2: Mac considers Greenie's Day1 vote innocentish. Greenie doesn't think G55's death incriminates Mac, but finds him suspicious nevertheless. Mac lists Greenie as fairly innocent. Mac argues that Greenie's vote on him doesn't look lion-on-lion. Greenie finds Mac the most suspicious in the village and notes him as one of her preferred vote candidates. Mac tries to explain his slip to Greenie. Greenie almost prefers lynching Kit to lynching Mac, but decides to vote Mac after all.
Conclusions: Greenie looks very good for pointing out Mac's slip that one else had noticed after hours had passed. If she's a wolf, she's one of the most heartless bussers I've yet seen (which would be possible but I'd wonder why did she deliberately choose the strategy on already Day1).

Mac and Copper
Day1: Mac is not too concerned about Cop
Day2: Cop discusses Mac's fake reveal without reaching a conclusion. Says Mac and Nerwen are unlikely to be wolves together. Later finds him mildly suspicious and more confusing, files him under "slightly fishy". Mac lists Cop as fairly neutral.
Conclusion: Could be anything.

Mac and Wyth
Day1: Mac is not too concerned about Wyth. Wyth gives Mac his second vote because he's one of the two that stand out to him the most.
Day2: Mac considers Wyth's Day1 vote fishy. Mac says that it's possible but unlikely that Wyth-wolf would have considered himself seer-dreamed by G55. Mac finds Wyth suspiciously defensive. Wyth replies by pointing out it's the first time ever he's been suspected. In his defense to Lottie, Mac keeps saying his suspicion of Wyth was justified. Mac lists Wyth as suspicious but won't vote for him yet. Wyth changes his mind and says Mac looks fairly good but mentions he could still be the bear.
Conclusions: I could see a wolf-Mac and a newbie-wolf-Wyth interacting in this way, especially with Mac finding Wyth suspicious but not vote-worthy and Wyth flip-flopping on Mac once it comes to voting. Then again, all this could be the interaction of a wolf and an innocent.

Mac and Gil
Day1: Mac considers Gil innocent.
Day2: Mac considers Gil's Day1 vote neutral. Mac lists Gil as fairly innocent. Gil slightly hesitantly gives Mac his 3rd vote with lack of better options.
Conclusions: Gil's vote yesterDay makes him look quite innocent to me. Since he didn't have any real suspicions, he could've gone with anyone but he decided to go with Mac.

Mac and Sally
Day1: Mac puts Sally in the "no clue" category and notes on her silence.
Day2: Mac considers Sally's Day1 vote neutral. Mac lists Sally as fairly neutral.
Conclusions: Could be anything.

Summa summarum
possible packmates: Boro, Encai, Eomer, Kitanna, Rikae, Nog, Copper, Wyth, Sally
unlikely packmates: Inzil, Lottie, Eönwë, Greenie, Gil

edit: xed with everyone, sheesh, this took ages!
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