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William Cloud Hicklin · 03-20-2014, 12:09 PM

Last of all, however: didn't, by any chance, Gandalf just at that point stand "on a high place" and battled with his will against Sauron in order to turn him away from Frodo?

In unpublished notes T said explicitly that Gandalf was "on a hill in Fangorn" when he strove with the Eye over Frodo on Amon Hen. This was two and a half days before "Mauhur and his lads" attempted to break the Riders' leaguer.

And, yes, it's true that Fangorn is quite big, 100 miles from east to west and even more north-south: as big as the whole Shire, and nearly the size of all of Mirkwood south of the Narrows. It's a bit like saying "They were both in Denmark, surely they must have seen each other."

03-20-2014, 12:09 PM	#3
William Cloud Hicklin Loremaster of Annúminas Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,330	Last of all, however: didn't, by any chance, Gandalf just at that point stand "on a high place" and battled with his will against Sauron in order to turn him away from Frodo? In unpublished notes T said explicitly that Gandalf was "on a hill in Fangorn" when he strove with the Eye over Frodo on Amon Hen. This was two and a half days before "Mauhur and his lads" attempted to break the Riders' leaguer. And, yes, it's true that Fangorn is quite big, 100 miles from east to west and even more north-south: as big as the whole Shire, and nearly the size of all of Mirkwood south of the Narrows. It's a bit like saying "They were both in Denmark, surely they must have seen each other." __________________ The entire plot of The Lord of the Rings could be said to turn on what Sauron didn’t know, and when he didn’t know it.