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Old 12-28-2013, 01:17 PM   #7
jallanite
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Originally Posted by cellurdur View Post
Tolkien more than once explicitly states that Arwen and Elrond were not part of the Eldar, but Half-elven. Even in LOTR you will notice that Elrond is never grouped together with elves. Even his sons, who are over 3/4 elvish are kept separate from elves.
That Elrond and Arwen are always called “Half-elven” makes sense, considering the different destinies of Elves and Men. But where does Tolkien explicitly state that neither Elrond or Arwen were not in any sense Eldar? In their genealogical origins Elrond and Arwen were part Maia. So of course Tolkien would not generally state that Elrond was an Elda pure and simple, because he wasn’t. Tolkien does mention that Elrond preferred to trace his descent from Thingol rather than from Eärendil and Elwing.

You appear to me to be over-emphasizing that the name Half-elven (Pereldar) is different from Elven (Eldar), something no-one has denied. Why do you wish to emphasize this difference is if it matters for the purpose of this discussion of Glorfindel?
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