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Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark
I feel the indented could be Thorin's father or grandfather(sorry forgetting name) He ended up in the deep dungeons of Sauron(Black pit) his throne is empty. But his army would have axes not spears....
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Well, at least until you figure out who would the second one be, and if they would make any sense put together, you won't know 
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