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Old 01-20-2013, 04:01 PM   #14
Aiwendil
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Originally Posted by cellurdur
Yeh I just flicked through and it seems the essay is from 1954.
The mentions of Dagor Dagorath, though, are not from the 1954 essay; neither are they from the 1972 notes. They are associated with the narrative of the choosing of the Istari, for which, as far as I can see, CT doesn't even hazard a guess as to the date. It certainly seems to me that it is probably later than the 1954 essay, especially given that in that essay it is said that the names of the 'other two' were unknown, while in the narrative of the choosing they are named. But even so, 1954-1972 is a pretty broad range.

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Originally Posted by elbenprincess
I just donīt like the idea of him being or becoming a Valar and that he seemingly does after fighting Morgoth.
Well, in the 1937 QS he kills Morgoth but does not become a Vala.
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