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Originally Posted by Draugohtar
Presumably yes, but some ie Sauron, not in a terribly good condition!
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From
Morgoth’s Ring (HoME 10), page 376:
But the Sun is feminine, and it is better that the Vala should be Áren, a maiden whom Melkor endeavoured to make his spouse (or ravished); she went up in a flame of wrath and anguish and her spirit was released from Eä, …
Tolkien repeats this on page 381:
Melkor did not heed her warning, but cried in his wrath: ‘The gift which is withheld I take!’ and he ravished Árië, desiring to abase her and to take unto himself her powers. Then the spirit of Árië went up like a flame of anguish and wrath, and departed for ever from Arda;* and the Sun was bereft of the Light of Varda, and was stained by the assault of Melkor.
*[marginal note] Indeed some would say that it was released from Eä.
This tale is from material that Tolkien decided not to include in his
Silmarillion, part of an attempt to rework his past history to make it congruent with scientific knowledge of the history of the universe and the solar system.
Tolkien later decided that the
Silmarillion material should be considered Elvish tales mixed with Mannish legend which allowed him to continue to include non-scientific material such a early ages of Earth with plants and animals but not sun or moon and the late creation of the Sun and Moon from the last fruits of the Two Trees. But rather than causing such material to be considered false in connection with Tolkien’s tales of Middle-earth, it may mean that they are now to be considered closer to the truth.
In any case it shows Tolkien considered at least one possible exception to his general rule that all the Ainur who descended into Eä would remain there until the End.
Tolkien also considers that this may be true of Morgoth. On page 403 he writes:
He [Morgoth] was judged, and eventually taken out of the Blessed Realm and executed: that is killed like one of the incarnates. … When that body was destroyed he was weak and utterly ‘houseless’, and for that time at a loss and ‘unanchored’ as it were. We read that he was thrust out into the Void. That should mean that he was put outside Time and Space, outside Eä altogether, but if that were so this would imply a direct intervention of Eru (with or without supplication of the Valar). It may however refer inaccurately to the extrusion or flight of his spirit from Arda.