The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum - View Single Post

TheLostPilgrim · 12-26-2011, 04:20 PM

A question:
Bilbo, Frodo, Gimli, Gandalf, Legolas and Sam pass over to the Grey Havens, right? What exactly are the Grey Havens? What is the nature of the lad? I'm VERY new to LOTR so I'm a little clueless about some of this stuff. Also, would going to the Grey Havens or "Undying Lands" mean that Bilbo, Frodo, Sam and Gimli have eternal life? What about Legolas, Galadriel and the other Elves who went? Or Gandalf--Would he still have retained physical form and remained "Gandalf" or would he have returned to being Olorin, the Maia spirit? I would think such spirits are eternal, right? And even as Olorin, Gandalf would have his own personality and identity?

And lastly, why were the Elves fading? Why were so many leaving Middle Earth? And did any Elves remain in ME at least into the Fourth Age and beyond?

12-26-2011, 04:20 PM	#1
TheLostPilgrim Haunting Spirit Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 72	The Grey Havens A question: Bilbo, Frodo, Gimli, Gandalf, Legolas and Sam pass over to the Grey Havens, right? What exactly are the Grey Havens? What is the nature of the lad? I'm VERY new to LOTR so I'm a little clueless about some of this stuff. Also, would going to the Grey Havens or "Undying Lands" mean that Bilbo, Frodo, Sam and Gimli have eternal life? What about Legolas, Galadriel and the other Elves who went? Or Gandalf--Would he still have retained physical form and remained "Gandalf" or would he have returned to being Olorin, the Maia spirit? I would think such spirits are eternal, right? And even as Olorin, Gandalf would have his own personality and identity? And lastly, why were the Elves fading? Why were so many leaving Middle Earth? And did any Elves remain in ME at least into the Fourth Age and beyond?