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Old 11-21-2011, 09:44 PM   #4
Galadriel55
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Welcome indeed, Belegorn!

Just a question to you - were you asking a question, or did you just want to hear a discussion on the topic of the istari and their, if it is, failure?


Either way, my answer is that it depends on what you consider to be "failure", how high (or low) to you set the bar of "passing" (one Maia didn't pass for sure..... haha). You could say that even Gandalf failed, because he was not able to continue living physically in Arda, but he was given a second chance. And you could say that Saruman didn't completely fail, since his deeds too brought about the destruction of the Ring, even though he betrayed everyone later on. And these two Wizards are the "extremes" (as was said, Radagast simply was passive, and we don't know a great deal about the Blue Wizards).
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