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ahem, as far as the general question goes, er, ah...
Be he friend or foe, whether Balrog of Morgoth, or Elf, or child of Men, or anything living or dead of Arda, neither might of the Valar nor any power of wizardry shall defend him from the pursuing hate of Feanor's sons, if he should take a Silmaril and keep it!
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Among the friendly dead, being bad at games did not seem to matter
-Il Lupo Fenriso
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