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Re: Re:sorry 'bout that Z didnt think straight
Oh, this is ridiculous....
OK look, I'll try take them one by one.
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Quote:<hr> 1)LOTR is WAY above HP in writing,because of the excellent plot,and cause it's a new world -Tolkien made up the Hobbits and Ents and all of middle earth-.<hr></blockquote>
That's true. Tolkein created a different world, different creatures, and so on. The charm - for me and many others - in HP is that it's in
this world. I can relate to some of the characters - Hermione, for one, is just like me about SPEW, I'm very into animal rights - where would I find that in a world where everything is different? I love middle earth, but I also love the smaller world she created. Because I can almost believe in it.
If your definition of a better book is 'longer, very unreal' then yes, you're 100% right. but that's not MY definition.
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Quote:<hr> 2Hp's moral charectaristics-what moral charecteristics?- STINK,BAD compared to Tolkiens charecters.<hr></blockquote>
He's a
school boy. So what if he lies about maps and doesn't do his homework? You'll notice most children don't do their homework occasionally and tell lies because they don't want the punishment and problems that follow the truth. It's not important. You know, I've been to lots of places where religious people talk about how HP books are a bad influence and so on and so on, because the characters tell lies and the teachers still like them and they're not properly punished for what they do.
Each time, I've stared and thought, does it matter? Harry is brave, he's nice to people - well, most people - he's not very clever like Hermione, he doesn't show off, doesn't enjoy his fame, tries to be normal, and is altogether
good. Does it matter that he tells an occasional lie? He often has good reason for it. Take the marauders map. How would it be if he told? His friends would be in trouble. As to Hagrid, who
cares? He loves animals too much.
The characters in the LoTR don't lie because... well. Where would a character lie in LotR? Tell me where a character would have lied but didn't. A situation like the Maurauders Map, and then I'll tell you.
They ask forgiveness because they know they've done something very wrong and they're
grown up and mature. Unlike Harry. Again, I need references. What does Harry do that he should ask forgiveness for and he doesn't? what does A L.R. character do that he does ask forgiveness for?
Finally, all the similarities - Trolls are always, as Zoe says, stupid and so on. JK uses traditional animals - though not always very well-known ones - Hippogriffs, Basilisks, etc.
There is a similarity between the two willows, but like I tell you she hadn't READ L.R. at the time - it was in an interview somewhere - the One Ring, I think. Saying that 'people kept asking if I'd read tLotR once I was famous for my own books, and it was embarrasing that I had to keep saying no, so I read it and yes, I liked it.' Or something of the sort.
Sorry, but who
is Beorn? I haven't read the Silmarrilion properly and I don't remember anyone in the L.R.
You can look for similarities everywhere and find them. You just need to look hard enough. I don't think JKR copied Tolkien's Mirkwood with the forbidden forest, but I can't prove otherwise. (Same with the willows.)
And if she did - so? Why does that make you so mad? I don't see a problem myself.
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Hannah~*~,
The caged bird sings with a fearful trill
Of things unknown, but longed for still
And his tune is heard on the distant hills
For the caged bird sings of freedom. ~Maya Angelou, 'Caged bird', 'Shaker, why don't you sing?'</p>