[Nogrod]

Okay. I started to write on a few things but this first turned out to be such an alarming one I'll just post this first (and then check the clock).

I really disliked the way Boro and the phantom drove that "the dead will do this on our bidding" -thing (aided somewhat by Elron & a little by Glirdy). The wolves have had the upper hand so far in the thread and especially if Lottie is not a wolf they're having a very strong position now.

Thus they know that Mandos is populated by innocents only (if there is a cobbler or two here they don't know and we don't know).

Now where is the knowledge of the roles by innocents, where is the possible trust and reasonable co-operation? Here in Mandos populated by the good-guys. Where is the chaos and total upperhand of baddies especially coming to knowledge? There in the living thread.

So the baddies would love to tie our hands here to that more or less insignificant enterprise of sending them messages there. Remember, the wolves know both Lommy and Nessa are innocents. So with strictly following that rule of sending them messages, all the innocent villagers have gained when D6 dawns is that on D3 there were two innocents facing the gallows and everyone agreed to lynch them, baddies and innocents alike.

What a waste! And not especially helpful to the innocents.

We, on the contrary know that already (you'll know about Nessa when the Day begins). We have the knowledge and should start thinking how to best use our extra-votes.

Sounding panicky? Nope. But you should also be on top of the numbers right now.

Not counting for further ranger-saves and disregarding the hunter-kill (as it could go both ways) we have the following situation:

D5 starts with 7-3

If they manage to lynch one innocent more on D5...

D6 starts with 5-3... and they need only one more succesful lynch & Nightkill to win straight (and all we have managed to give the innocents that far is the result of D3's lynching where every innocent is basically as liable as the wolves & cobblers).

So if things go as they plan - which sadly seems more likely than not - they can overpower the village quite fast, in two Days. And reducing us to a message-senders the baddies make sure we don't try to get involved any other way in there during these critical two Days ahead. Thus letting them reign supreme there.


I thought it was bad some people called for stiff rules and sticking to the plan whatever the situation - but having thought it through now, it looks really evil.