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Originally Posted by Nogrod
So on D1, on a situation where BeiGei had 5 votes, Eonwë had 2 and Nerwen had just received the 2nd vote (with a few one voters), Shasta and Lottie give votes to Eonwë lifting him high up above Nerwen and practically make it a race between BeiGei and Eonwë, two known innocents.
Okay, if they (or one of them) were trying to help Nerwen out why didn’t they just vote for BeiGei? A good question, but then again, it might have been too suspicious a choice to go for such an overpowering wagon (and /or maybe their earlier comments didn’t allow them to - I don't have time to go through them at the moment, sorry).
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You know, that Day I really didn't see Nerwen as at all a possible candidate for lynching. There was no (or at least very little) support at that time for suspecting her. And you don't get to call Steve a known innocent for Day 1 and then say that it was perfectly viable to think he was Cursed Day 2:
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In general I’d suggest that as wrong as it was, it did look pretty plausible Eonwë was the cursed yesterday, so those trying to save him might have been those who thought he could be useful to them?
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I'm sorry, but that just doesn't match up.
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Another one is the deal-making at the end of D2 where phantom and Mac (with the late confirmation of Nerwen) decided between me and Eonwë – while suggesting different candidates to each other and Lottie & Tum. I mean, yes I do appreciate your discussions of choice reasoning-wise – and heh, it’s nice to be alive anyway, so I also do appreciate your final decision. But there was something in the air of that discussion, in the relative ease in which different people were brought in and taken out of it, that makes me really feel like I should rethink one or some of you (remember, any wolves present in the end had no mates in trouble there, they were toying with innocents known to them to be innocents). Surely I do not think you all three are wolves, but it is most unlikely you all are innocent. Or then we really do have a “lay-low” lupine community who are not interested in hanging around there in the end.
And Lottie and Tum then? They were clearly not so happy with the alternatives but tried to get me lynched whatever the other possibilities? Hmm… Maybe the given alternatives included a wolf they (one of them) didn’t like at all? Also, it is easy to see why the wolves would have wanted me dead rather than Eonwë – now that they had a chance. Eonwë could be lynched later, or maybe he really was the cursed and they could turn him the next Night?
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So they're suspicious for throwing out different options and we're suspicious for not liking this?
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Hey Lottie. If you see the trouble going through someone's posts and re-posting them, you could add some analysis of your own - or points of your own. I mean what do you think of the person and her possible innocence / lupinity? Otherwise it's quite futile bussiness that doesn't exactly help that much.
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Okay. I think it's likely that she's a wolf. In fact, I think it's probable. If you saw no points in my post, I don't know what to tell you. I wrote down what I saw, and made points for and (more often) against her innocence.
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In the end of D2 she seemed more intrested in discussing with Tum than actually considering the voting. So she had her mind made and avoided taking too much a stance on the alternatives. But that's often the mistake the wolves make: when they are on safe-ground at the end of the Day they play casually and do not pay too much attention as to who gets lynched (if it's okay to them, whicever of the candidates dies). Innocents are always a bit worried there, and it mostly shows somewhere.
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I thought you just suspected me for taking a stand against the proposed lynch options? Yeah, I had my mind made - I was going to vote for one of the people I'd thought rationally about, rather than a last-minute "hey, she exists - let's kill her" type bandwagon.