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Old 03-06-2010, 08:54 AM   #8
Ibrīnišilpathānezel
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Originally Posted by Lalaith View Post
Now this got me interested, too - I'd not seen that before. I uncovered this bit of research
Interesting. It's strange, though, that the belief that Elenwe was a Vanya significantly predates the publication of the HoME books, and this outside of the fan fiction community (to which I was not introduced, LotR-wise, until the early 1990s, though I had been involved in the academic communities long before that). There must be something that prompted this belief, and someday, when I have the time for a good detailed digging through reference materials, I'll see if I can figure out where that came from.

Regardless, Elrond is still part Vanya. If one dismisses Elenwe's origins, then one can trace it through Turgon, as he is a grandson of Finwe and Indis, the latter of whom was definitely a Vanya. It seems that with very few exceptions, if Tolkien describes an Elf as "golden haired" (which is how he describes Idril in TS), somewhere you will find an ancestor of the Vanyar (which makes one wonder about Glorfindel and Thranduil...).
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