Nothing so complicated. Forget psychology and morals. All I'm looking for is two little episodes, one from LotR, one from the Narn, both having to do with something pretty concrete (as in, visible and touchable). As Bertolt Brecht said, "Grub first, then ethics". 
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Und aus dem Erebos kamen viele seelen herauf der abgeschiedenen toten.- Homer, Odyssey, Canto XI
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