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Old 01-24-2010, 06:00 PM   #22
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A question of grammar

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Originally Posted by Ibrîniðilpathânezel View Post
I believe that it is important for one to consider Tolkien's final statement about Celeborn that appears in the letters, because it was made in December of 1972, less than a year before he died. etc.
Ah, but the original question by haste was:

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"For the Lord of the Galadrim is accounted the wisest of the Elves of Middle-earth, and a giver of gifts beyond the power of kings. He has dwelt in the West since the days of dawn, and I have dwelt with him years uncounted;"
Now that is Galadriel talking to the company and I was just wondering if anyone knows if "The West" stated in that quote is Aman or Beliriand.
I'm inclined to agree with Galin that what matters here was the author's intention at the time of writing. haste was, after all, asking what one particular passage meant.

Further, I think that in this case the question of canonicity is rather beside the point. Regardless of which version of Celeborn's origins one accepts, I'd say that the quote simply refers to his time in the west of Middle Earth. Galadriel's use of "he has dwelt in the West since the days of dawn, and I have dwelt with him" implies that she is not talking about the distant past.
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