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Old 12-20-2009, 09:02 PM   #612
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Originally Posted by Ibrīnišilpathānezel View Post
Definitely a problem. For a long time, I've felt that in Jackson's permutation of Tolkien's world, it would've made more sense to leave Gandalf dead than to bring him back and really serve no purpose to the remaining plot.
That makes so much sense.

I guess we have to realize that the writers were limited in that they could not find a way that they thought the audience would 'get' where Aragorn becomes more kingish and yet Gandalf remains a step above.

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Who completely healed Gandalf of his wounds (he looked quite beat up before his transformation)?
Who healed cliff-diving Aragorn? Brego?

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He's been sent back by whom? Even if one discounts the lack of background information regarding Eru/Valar/Maiar, one has to get the implication that God himself sent Gandalf back to finish his task.
Conjecture. I use my sister as the penultimate example of the average viewer (as she has never read the books). She would have never guessed that it was a god that sent Gandalf back, but that he, being a wizard, had pulled it off somehow on his own.

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Otherwise, what can you assume the script is referring to?
The local wizards guild?

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Again, with such an implication, how then can we go from Gandalf defeating a Balrog 'of Morgorth' (who is this Morgoth, by the way?),
Exactly.

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being ressurrected and completely healed, breaking Saruman's staff and chasing away Nazgul on the Pelennor, to having his staff shattered, being unhorsed and cowering in fear to the WitchKing? It is bogus and utterly inconsistent. Silly even.
Which is exactly the problem. Even if the Witch King was powered up to the level of Sauron with the Ring, it did not seem so in the film, and so even my sister couldn't figure out why Gandalf could kill a balrog but get proned by the Black Flyer.

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Have I mentioned I have, once again, drank far too much coffee today?
I would have guessed that you were chewing the beans...
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