Corpus Cacophonous
Join Date: Jan 2003
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Lovers' PMs - Day 4
More love-struck missives ...
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Originally Posted by SpM
More Wolf spotting ...
Dearest Fee Fee
I must admit that McCaber’s Wolfishness came as somewhat of a surprise to me. Looking back on it, I can see why the Wolves might have wanted to sacrifice him. It does make me wonder, however, whether we were wrong about Roa and the Wolves chose to sacrifice McCaber instead of her.
Her annoyance yesterDay looked genuine at the time. But, it’s possible that it was put on and that she voted for you to test whether there might be more general support for doing so. After all, the Wolves’ best bet for a sole victory would have been to get one of us lynched during the Day and kill the other at Night since that would remove two known innocents and even possibly avoid our revenge kill (it’s not clear whether we get that at Night). Then, when she saw that it didn’t work, she came on toDay all apologetic. Notably, it’s the second time in the game that she’s changed tack (her change of approach to me from Day 1 to Day 2).
It’s difficult to tell as she is hot headed and I can quite believe that our fun and games yesterDay would have wound her up. On the other hand, I am not at all sure that we can rely on her being innocent now.
Clearly at least one Wolf voted for McCaber and quite possibly two. It may be that all three voted for him, although I regard this as less likely, as it would surely have required some kind of planning and their main plan at the start of yesterDay would have been to get you lynched. So I would think that any Wolf votes for McCaber would have come later in the Day, when they saw that he was likely to get lynched in any event. If so, that points to Inzil, Nerwen and/or Brinn. Indeed, a Wolf pack of two of those and Roa would make quite a lot of sense, in light of the voting record.
Clearly, I am now less convinced of the Wolfishness of Nog and Loslote.
Sorry that I can’t be more certain, but McWolf’s lynching has rather thrown me.
Love etc.
~Saucikins~
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Originally Posted by Fea
Re: More Wolf spotting ...
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Originally Posted by The Saucepan Man
I must admit that McCaber’s Wolfishness came as somewhat of a surprise to me.
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It didn't come as a surprise to me, because as you'll remember, I mentioned a few Days ago that there was something about him that was ringing alarm bells.
What did surprise me was how anti-climactic the end of Day was.
Why on earth wouldn't the pack vote to kill of Roa?
They clearly had our contribution, they had plenty of time to do it.
She's a suspected innocent by just about everybody, and she's oh so helpful to the village. Clearly it should have been an easy choice: once I'm no longer an option and Cabbie's on the chopping block, make a quick case against somebody else (or simply be transparent).
There are only two reasons why they didn't kill Roa instead of Cabbie: she's the pack leader or the wolves want the village to think she is. But the problem with the second idea is when they would have had time to discuss it, since we threw an obvious wrench in the Day with our little stunt.
I think they had to choose the lesser of two evils and went with the Cabbie lynch to buy themselves time to discuss things further.
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Her annoyance yesterDay looked genuine at the time.
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Well after all the time and effort I put into antagonizing her (nothing personal, she was just the most outspoken 'innocent.' I'd have just as methodically irritated anybody else in her position if the opportunity had arisen) I'd have been shocked if she didn't snap.
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one of us lynched during the Day and kill the other at Night since that would remove two known innocents and even possibly avoid our revenge kill (it’s not clear whether we get that at Night)
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Actually, I don't know either. I know that suicide is an option (I asked), so that wasn't just me talking smack.
Ah, this game... It's actually some of the most fun I've ever had playing. I thank you for that. You're a wonderful conspirator.
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Originally Posted by SpM
Re: More Wolf spotting ...
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Originally Posted by you
Why on earth wouldn't the pack vote to kill of Roa?
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The only think that I can think of is that it would have looked bad for them if she is innocent. But I agree. She was generally suspected for her reaction at our reveal, so they could easily have talked their way out of it. I am increasingly of the view that Roa is a Wolf, together with two of Inzil, Nerwen and Brinn. Sally, I think, is their chosen innocent 'fall guy' du jour (although I thought that yesterDay about McCaber, so what do I know).
And didn't I tell you that Noggie would accuse us of playing unsportingly.  If he is a Wolf, then I doubt that the pack will make a deal with us. But I now think it much more likely that he is innocent. His posts bemoaning our approach look genuine to me. What's more, his analysis of who might be Wolves is pretty much in line with the way that I have been thinking toDay.
Now, who should we be thinking about voting for toDay? On reflection, I am starting to think that it doesn't really matter to us whether an innocent or a Wolf is lynched. If an innocent is lynched, then we can seal the game with the Wolves toMorrow (provided that they play along). But, if a Wolf is lynched, then it makes it even less likely that they will attack one of us toNight, as they will be more worried about our revenge kill. Indeed, on that basis, it might be even better for us if a Wolf is lynched.
I have work in the morning, so I will have to leave about 4 hours before the deadline - 3 hours at the very latest. But then again, for the reasons stated above, I am not too bothered about who is lynched.
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Ah, this game... It's actually some of the most fun I've ever had playing. I thank you for that. You're a wonderful conspirator.
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The feeling is entirely mutual, I assure you.
Love etc
~SpLB~
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Originally Posted by Fea
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The only think that I can think of is that it would have looked bad for them if she is innocent.
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But at this point in the game, who cares? Either we were on their side and they had it made, or they could lie the next day with, "Oh, oops, our bad. Roa really seemed evil. Oh, we're in so much trouble as a village! Oh no..."
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And didn't I tell you that Noggie would accuse us of playing unsportingly.
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Saw it coming a mile away. That's okay. As I said: I warned them early that the Lovers might not have their best interest at heart, that they weren't obligated by the rules to side with the village, and they blithely ignored the warning.
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Indeed, on that basis, it might be even better for us if a Wolf is lynched.
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I wonder if the wolves would step up if we voted for one of them? Maybe not. It would depend on whether or not they think we're bluffing on the side of the village.
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I have work in the morning, so I will have to leave about 4 hours before the deadline - 3 hours at the very latest. But then again, for the reasons stated above, I am not too bothered about who is lynched.
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I have to go paint my grandma's living room in the morning. Well, I say 'have to' but I did volunteer to do it... I'd hate for her to try ripping down wall paper and climbing ladders on her own, and my aunts are all equally likely to injure themselves with renovation. So I'll be around until DL, but barely.
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Originally Posted by SpM
More Wolf spotting ...
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Originally Posted by you
But at this point in the game, who cares? Either we were on their side and they had it made, or they could lie the next day with, "Oh, oops, our bad. Roa really seemed evil. Oh, we're in so much trouble as a village! Oh no..."
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Yes, good point.
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Originally Posted by you
As I said: I warned them early that the Lovers might not have their best interest at heart, that they weren't obligated by the rules to side with the village, and they blithely ignored the warning.
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Indeed. I meant to make that very point to the Nogsulk, but it slipped my mind.
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I wonder if the wolves would step up if we voted for one of them?
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No, I don't think that they would. My main concern is that they may take it a as declaration of hostilities. Then again, as I said, a lynched Wolf may actually help us to sleep safer toNight.
I reckon Inzil's a Wolf, with that vote for sally.
Love etc
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Originally Posted by SpM
Glad tidings
Sally's part-reveal and Inzil's reveal in response have benefitted us greatly, I think. I suspect that Inzil is the Ranger. If a Wolf, he had little reason to make a Ranger claim at that point. Assuming that he is, the Wolves have a better target than us toNight.
If, by any chance, sally is the Ranger then her likely lynching toDay will uncover Inzil as a Wolf and the pack is going to be very reluctant to risk triggering our revenge kill.
All good stuff. I like to think a played a little part in prompting Inzil's reveal.
I must go now, so I'll stick with my vote for Roa. Obviously, you should vote as you see fit, but the lynching of sally (which looks the most likely outcome now) would probably not be a bad thing for us, either way.
Good luck and I hope to see you again when the sun next rises.
Love etc
~Sauce~
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Originally Posted by Fea
Re: Glad tidings
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Originally Posted by The Saucepan Man
Assuming that he is, the Wolves have a better target than us toNight.
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Well, they can't both be, so either way the wolves have someone nice to go after.
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All good stuff. I like to think a played a little part in prompting Inzil's reveal.
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I agree. It's very fun to think such things.
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Good luck and I hope to see you again when the sun next rises.
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If not, we'll probably be together again before the sun next sets. 
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