[Roa_Aoife]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Just one more speculation at this hour...

Now clearly the fact that the wolves didn't try to kill Pitchie - which we should know for certain as Kit died - would point towards Hakon being actually the real ranger and thus cast the suspicion on wilwa.

Now didn't they have any other choices or was it their intention to make wilwa look bad?

That's actually quite interesting, since the only thing Kitanna's death point to (mind you I haven't finished going through Day 2) is Wilwa. Could that have been a factor in choosing Kitanna.

But what this actually tells us is that unlike some of you might think we shouldn't keep both our rangers alive indefinitively. One of them actually has to be a wolf and even if our numbers are nice at the moment they will dwindle with two by day - and trying them out will take two days (if we get it wrong the first time) meaning we may lose four people getting rid of one wolf. So we should not leave that to the last possible moment...

Indefinitely? Of course not. But the wolves would be foolish to leave a gifted alive longer than they absolutely have to. The longer they leave the ranger alive, the more careful they have to be in their kills, and if they fail and the ranger comes out and says who they protected, well, that's as good as a seer's dream.

Which is not to say lynch one of them toDay. But in one or two Days we'd probably have to take sides with that issue.

I'm certain people already have.

Not exactly. I suspect those people who time their efforts to lynch me when innocent too nicely - or make a too heavy effort on Day1 or 2 with minimal arguments. In both cases I see an evil intent trying to get me lynched and not being honestly trying to lynch a baddie as the first priority.

But if I think you are a baddie, then honestly trying to lynch you is honestly trying to lynch a baddie, isn't it? See, while you may be sure of your role, I have no means of that except your death or a seers dream. I hardly made a heavy effort- I posted analysis, not just of you, but of several people that SPM mentioned. Not because it's you, but because a known wolf talked about you in ambiguous terms. Contrary to your perceptions, I just want to find a wolf, not go after you because it's fun. As for my vote- it was your lack of reaction to my "trying hard to lynch you" (which I wasn't) that made me ultimately change my mind from voting for Inzil to voting for you.

I'm not sure which one of has the faulty logic here... or well, a very differing view of things at least.

By killing the real ranger last Night the wolves would have most probably exposed one of them (the false ranger) whom we would have then lynched toDay - leaving one wolf alone against the entire village.

Which I mentioned- it was point B. Please read before responding.

And yes, I was saying the same: if the wolves thought Pitch was protected they had an open invitation to pick anyone they wished. But I would think they would go for those who could be influental threats to them rather than trying to pick someone who's not been too openly in the spotlight thus far.

By your logic, you shouldn't be alive this morning either. And we are easy to lynch. You don't get rid of someone who's easy to lynch. You get them lynched during the day.

I see you Roa make an interesting "pre-defence" of yourself saying you are easy to lynch which would make you not on the top of their target lists were you innocent. I think I need to disagree with you there. If I was a wolf I would be darn terrified of you, anyway much more than I would be terrified of Kit. Just compare the "lynchability" after presenting something like "a case" on either of you two, or the influence either of you could have on the village if you got it right...

Again, by your logic, you should be a top candidate for the kill as well. You also wouldn't false reveal as a gifted in the manner as was done yesterday. I think it's pretty clear the wolves aren't playing like you.

Oh you had one more...
Sorry to disappoint you, but I was not being a clever wolf there. Sadly I was just acting stupidly from a moment's passion. The last minute fever...

I didn't think you were. If you were paying attention to my post at all, you would see that I am fairly certain of your innocence. You are letting past games get into your head and not actually thinking clearly. Calm down- I don't want to lynch you.

But then again I'm not too sure I would have something like a major issue to go after you toDay... I mean why would I? I should try to look for a wolf here, not look for how to get a certain person lynched wgatever s/he is.

Because at the end of Day 2, you were sure that I was evil. It's follows that you would continue to think so toDay. And if you are trying to kill wolves, and you think that I'm a wolf, it follows that you would try to kill me.

But as I said, I'll be back a little later (I just decided to look at the situation and maybe post some elementary thoughts of our situation and here a full hourr has already gone...).

And with an eye to everyone, not just you Roa.

I hope you return soon, because I'm fairly sure we are on the same side. And I'd like to know your opinion of people other than myself.

Edit: crossed with Legate and Loslote