View Single Post
Old 08-18-2009, 01:29 PM   #16
Legate of Amon Lanc
A Voice That Gainsayeth
 
Legate of Amon Lanc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: In that far land beyond the Sea
Posts: 7,431
Legate of Amon Lanc is spying on the Black Gate.Legate of Amon Lanc is spying on the Black Gate.Legate of Amon Lanc is spying on the Black Gate.Legate of Amon Lanc is spying on the Black Gate.Legate of Amon Lanc is spying on the Black Gate.Legate of Amon Lanc is spying on the Black Gate.
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Mouth of Sauron View Post
There's something else.

If Elves visited Fangorn from time to time, one of the 3 eldest Ents, Skinbark - and his people - lived on the high WESTERN slopes of the Misty Mountains, which were presumably directly above Dunland.

So rather than Gildorian companies reaching Fangorn via the Gap of Rohan, they may have taken a short-cut through Dunland to reach Skinbark ?
Nay, I would not think so. With referrence to the above, let us keep in mind that Fangorn was no tourist attraction for the Elves. I believe that until Legolas' days, hardly any Elf set his foot there in a long time. Remember Celeborn's warnings to the Fellowship. Lórien Elves did not go to Fangorn, they respected each others' borders and did not have any intercourse for ages, possibly since the constitution of the realm of Lórien. And if the Lórien Elves, who were forest folk and lived close by, did not come there, what more the Rivendell Elves, who lived far away and the journey was long and perilous - and either very un-Elvish, through Gap of Isen (while Saruman was still an ally), or dangerous through the mountains. But like I said: I believe no Elf actually visited Fangorn before Legolas.

Western slopes of the Misty Mountains are not that much anyway, speaking of Skinbark. I am not sure, I would have to check in the books, but around the Gap of Isen, being on the western slopes does not necessarily mean being west of Isengard. What would Skinbark do there anyway? I guess he might have as well been dwelling close to Fangorn's western end, near Isengard.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rumil View Post
I could see the elven aristocracy of Rivendell riding out on a midsummer's night, led by the brethren Elladan and Elrohir or Elrond himself perhaps. Maybe they hunt the White Stag, maybe they scour the lands of orcs and trolls. Some years they go North into the Ettenmoors, some years North-West into the Trollshaws or South West across the plains and into the Angle, sometimes South into Hollin, and occasionally they carry on through Hollin to Dunland. East they go not.

Those nights the men of Dunland retire to their forts and roundhouses, build up the fire and bar the door, knowing that uncanny folk beyond their understanding are abroad.

Maybe !

What do you think?
I would go with Inziladun on this one, and I would add that the Elves we know certainly do not resemble the ones from the Wild Hunt (or however it's called properly in English) much. The Wood Elves of Thranduil did something like that, but I can't imagine the Rivendellers doing so - why would they go to such a distant land? The forests of Rhudaur were quite good for hunting AND also dangerous enough, aside from that, the diminishing Elves were really not probably in a mood to make long trips to Dunland just to hunt, they had enough to do with the orcs and trolls around their own homelands. No, I do not believe that this is the case, at least not here in Dunland. Maybe in ages past - but it would have to be really long, long time past, before even Men came there, if ever. There never have been many Elven settlements around Dunland, not of the sort that Elves would go hunting from there.
__________________
"Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories
Legate of Amon Lanc is offline   Reply With Quote