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Old 07-15-2009, 07:23 PM   #33
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Originally Posted by Inziladun View Post
I am aware of that usage. The fact that he was the 'Lord of Angmar' because he ruled that region would seem to weaken the case for Minas Morgul being his later eponymous capital city rather than strenghtening it.

As to who used the name 'Minas Morgul' first, Gandalf called the Black Captain 'a great king and sorceror of old'. I see no problem with the view that it was so named by the Gondorians, who were well aware of the nature of the creatures in command there.

Another question, having to do with this passage:


TTT The Stairs of Cirith Ungol

The Morgul-king? Why not 'face King Morgul'?
In fact, why was neither Morgul nor Angmar ever used as a personal name in anything Tolkien wrote, even when it would have been convenient or apposite, apart from this one instance Gordis has uncovered? Speaking of that, what is this excerpt from, Gordis? What is RC? I've never seen the quotation before, but you appear to be basing your claim on a shorthand note in a commentary piece. I see just as much evidence here for the position that Sauron sometimes went by "S."

But I guess you can call him whatever you like.
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