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Old 07-10-2009, 03:22 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by Estelyn Telcontar View Post
That means that Melkor could not have conceived of living creatures at that time; Aulë made the Dwarves later in memory of the vision and was given life for them as a special grace. I cannot imagine anything similar happening for Melkor.
Also to add, even though this doesn't really answer whether Morgoth created, or perverted, his Orcs, it does point out that their acceptance (by Eru) for existing:
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They would be Morgoth’s greatest Sins, abuses of his highest privilege, and would be creatures begotten of Sin, and naturally bad (I nearly wrote ’irredeemably bad’; but that would be going too far. Because by accepting or tolerating their making - necessary to their actual existence - even Orcs would become part of the World, which is God’s and ultimatly good.)~Letter #153
Since Orcs were allowed to exist, as were Aule's Dwarves, they may be naturally evil, but still not irredeemable.

Although, I must admit this letter makes an entirely different mess of things with Orcs, because Tolkien never sent it, and added to the top 'It seemed to be taking myself too importantly.'
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