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Boromir88 · 06-18-2009, 08:26 AM

Nogrod, Nerwen, and whoever else let me speak slowly so you can get this...

It's partially my fault, because technically we are not 'gaining' or 'losing' anything, we're just postponing, puting on a raincheck.

Now I'm randomly going to choose 7 people to prove a point (and hopefully that be the end).

Nogrod
Nerwen
Mac
Mira
Boro
Rikae
Lommy

For arguments sake let's say there is one wolf, and that is Nerwen...no Ranger, hunter or anything, just wolf-Nerwen.

Lets go first with your plan. We know Mira will be leaving the game, she will die at night. So, we decide to lynch Nogrod (chance 1). The wolves kill Mac at night (plus), losing Mira, which leaves...

Nerwen
Boro
Rikae
Lommy

There is one more chance to lynch Nerwen (chance 2)

Now, here is what we did yesterday...

Nogrod
Nerwen
Mac
Mira
Boro
Rikae
Lommy

We said...well Mira is going to be gone anyway, let's lynch her (we are conceding the oppurtunity of going for someone else, and a chance at a mutineer...but only putting a raincheck).

Nerwen kills Nogrod at night leaving...

Nerwen
Mac
Boro
Rikae
Lommy

We lynch Mac (chance 1). Nerwen kills me at night, leaving..

Nerwen
Rikae
Lommy

There is one more chance to get Nerwen (chance 2)

So, please stop saying we blew or wasted anything, because the fact is we didn't. We decided to just have a rain check. We didn't gain or lose any chances, the only way we gain chances is if the Ranger saves someone. We have the same exact chance, just extending it by a phase (Mac is technically right, it is an extra day phase).

In this style there are many benefits to doing what we did.

1) We don't know the role, eventhough it's unlikely Mira is a baddie (and not wanting to quit so easily), the fact is just because someone's computer is dead doesn't mean she is automatically innocent). So maybe we did get a wolf, or co-conspirater...is someone going to say for sure we didn't?

2) Even if Mira was going to get another day to get internet back, it saves us from being left another day with someone who isn't going to post (albeit no fault to Mira and I'm not blaming her for anything, stuff happens, but the fact is it was highly doubtful she could continue).

3) We, again, don't know the roles. Why take a shot at the dark with someone (say it would have been Annu) on day 2, plus losing Mira, plus what it turns out...losing Eomer. In a normal game, maybe you are right, but in this one, we wouldn't have found out about Annu's role, whether he is lynched yesterday, today, tomorrow, or if never.

It is never good to have multiple deaths in one day or one night, and in this set up it really isn't good, because we won't get any information out of it anyway, as we don't know people's roles!

Well...the mutineers do, but come on stop being so obsitinate, that will be enough of the decision to lynch Mira yesterday. Because there is no argument, you are flat out wrong if you say we wasted a chance.

Edit: bolding names

06-18-2009, 08:26 AM	#4
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	Nogrod, Nerwen, and whoever else let me speak slowly so you can get this... It's partially my fault, because technically we are not 'gaining' or 'losing' anything, we're just postponing, puting on a raincheck. Now I'm randomly going to choose 7 people to prove a point (and hopefully that be the end). Nogrod Nerwen Mac Mira Boro Rikae Lommy For arguments sake let's say there is one wolf, and that is Nerwen...no Ranger, hunter or anything, just wolf-Nerwen. Lets go first with your plan. We know Mira will be leaving the game, she will die at night. So, we decide to lynch Nogrod (chance 1). The wolves kill Mac at night (plus), losing Mira, which leaves... Nerwen Boro Rikae Lommy There is one more chance to lynch Nerwen (chance 2) Now, here is what we did yesterday... Nogrod Nerwen Mac Mira Boro Rikae Lommy We said...well Mira is going to be gone anyway, let's lynch her (we are conceding the oppurtunity of going for someone else, and a chance at a mutineer...but only putting a raincheck). Nerwen kills Nogrod at night leaving... Nerwen Mac Boro Rikae Lommy We lynch Mac (chance 1). Nerwen kills me at night, leaving.. Nerwen Rikae Lommy There is one more chance to get Nerwen (chance 2) So, please stop saying we blew or wasted anything, because the fact is we didn't. We decided to just have a rain check. We didn't gain or lose any chances, the only way we gain chances is if the Ranger saves someone. We have the same exact chance, just extending it by a phase (Mac is technically right, it is an extra day phase). In this style there are many benefits to doing what we did. 1) We don't know the role, eventhough it's unlikely Mira is a baddie (and not wanting to quit so easily), the fact is just because someone's computer is dead doesn't mean she is automatically innocent). So maybe we did get a wolf, or co-conspirater...is someone going to say for sure we didn't? 2) Even if Mira was going to get another day to get internet back, it saves us from being left another day with someone who isn't going to post (albeit no fault to Mira and I'm not blaming her for anything, stuff happens, but the fact is it was highly doubtful she could continue). 3) We, again, don't know the roles. Why take a shot at the dark with someone (say it would have been Annu) on day 2, plus losing Mira, plus what it turns out...losing Eomer. In a normal game, maybe you are right, but in this one, we wouldn't have found out about Annu's role, whether he is lynched yesterday, today, tomorrow, or if never. It is never good to have multiple deaths in one day or one night, and in this set up it really isn't good, because we won't get any information out of it anyway, as we don't know people's roles! Well...the mutineers do, but come on stop being so obsitinate, that will be enough of the decision to lynch Mira yesterday. Because there is no argument, you are flat out wrong if you say we wasted a chance. Edit: bolding names __________________ Fenris Penguin Last edited by Boromir88; 06-18-2009 at 08:34 AM.