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Gordis · 06-18-2009, 05:15 AM

I think most of you tend to misunderstand one thing: Sauron couldn't distribute any of the 19 again to create more slaves while he had no Ruling Ring.

How was the original Ring-scheme supposed to work?
Sauron gives a Ring to someone (an Elf, a Dwarf or a Man) and keeps the Ruling Ring himself. Through the connection between the One and one of the 19 he is able to constantly brainwash the owner of the lesser Ring, until he becomes his slave.
That's why the Elves never wore their Rings in the Second Age and the unsuspecting Men not only became wraiths, but slaves and servants to Sauron. Note: the Three themselves contained no evil, and the Seven and Nine, "corrupted" as they are said to be, still didn't contain a large chunk of Sauron's own self as did the One. It was the connection with the Ruling Ring that mattered.

When Sauron had lost the One, the other Rings had become temporary free. The Elves and Gandalf were able to use their Rings without any ill effects, the Dwarves who wore the Seven were also opposed to Sauron for generations. The Nazgul continued to serve him because of the previous harm done to their minds and souls so that by the Third Age they had become as evil as Sauron himself and conditioned to serve him. But even this conditioning proved not enough for Sauron's satisfaction: he saw fit to take the Nine Rings back to be sure of the nazgul's absolute loyalty.

Now what happens if Sauron gives one of the Rings to a Third Age Man? The Man would become a wraith eventually, but not Sauron's servant. While living, he would be as free to use his Ring unhindered by the Dark Lord as the Elves were. Sauron would be unable to brainwash the new owner of the Ring - because he had no Ruling Ring. That was the main reason why Sauron was collecting Rings n the Third Age, not distributing them. The second reason, IMO, was that he himself needed the power of the 19 to reshape,to increase his power, to rebuild Barad-Dur etc.

And note: Sauron only promised to give three of the Seven back to the Dwarves after he would get the One back. I have no doubt that once he got the One, he would have given the remaining three of the Seven maybe to Men, maybe to Dwarves and the Nine back to the Nazgul.

06-18-2009, 05:15 AM	#17
Gordis Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Minas Morgul Posts: 431	I think most of you tend to misunderstand one thing: Sauron couldn't distribute any of the 19 again to create more slaves while he had no Ruling Ring. How was the original Ring-scheme supposed to work? Sauron gives a Ring to someone (an Elf, a Dwarf or a Man) and keeps the Ruling Ring himself. Through the connection between the One and one of the 19 he is able to constantly brainwash the owner of the lesser Ring, until he becomes his slave. That's why the Elves never wore their Rings in the Second Age and the unsuspecting Men not only became wraiths, but slaves and servants to Sauron. Note: the Three themselves contained no evil, and the Seven and Nine, "corrupted" as they are said to be, still didn't contain a large chunk of Sauron's own self as did the One. It was the connection with the Ruling Ring that mattered. When Sauron had lost the One, the other Rings had become temporary free. The Elves and Gandalf were able to use their Rings without any ill effects, the Dwarves who wore the Seven were also opposed to Sauron for generations. The Nazgul continued to serve him because of the previous harm done to their minds and souls so that by the Third Age they had become as evil as Sauron himself and conditioned to serve him. But even this conditioning proved not enough for Sauron's satisfaction: he saw fit to take the Nine Rings back to be sure of the nazgul's absolute loyalty. Now what happens if Sauron gives one of the Rings to a Third Age Man? The Man would become a wraith eventually, but not Sauron's servant. While living, he would be as free to use his Ring unhindered by the Dark Lord as the Elves were. Sauron would be unable to brainwash the new owner of the Ring - because he had no Ruling Ring. That was the main reason why Sauron was collecting Rings n the Third Age, not distributing them. The second reason, IMO, was that he himself needed the power of the 19 to reshape,to increase his power, to rebuild Barad-Dur etc. And note: Sauron only promised to give three of the Seven back to the Dwarves after he would get the One back. I have no doubt that once he got the One, he would have given the remaining three of the Seven maybe to Men, maybe to Dwarves and the Nine back to the Nazgul.