I think that there must have been some Orc captains who thought they could steal the ring and become the new dark lord.
Quote:
'What d'you say? - if we get a chance, you and me'll slip off and set up somewhere on our own with a few trusty lads, somewhere where there's good loot nice and handy, and no big bosses.'
'Ah!', said Shagrat. 'Like old times.'
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Also that quote has one line that bothers me. Like old times. Why would the Orcs call that old times? It is almost like they are talking about a time before they were Sauron's servants.