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Old 06-07-2009, 01:45 PM   #29
Galin
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Originally Posted by Morthoron
Odd, isn't it, that Sauron can demand the Nine Rings back without the Ruling Ring? Seriously, it is a flaw in the plot.
But we don't know exactly how Sauron got the Rings back, noting (in any case) that the Wraiths had been his slaves for very many years and Sauron was usually a master of deception.

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If Sauron has the ability to control the Nazgul without the aid of the Ring, then the Ring is unnecessary, isn't it?
There are levels of control however, and IIRC Tolkien makes the point (or implies it) that when holding the Nine Rings the Dark Lord could trust the Nine even to acquire the One and return it to their Master once acquired -- the search for the One in particular would be a good reason for Sauron to take back the Nine rings. In any event the level of his sway over them otherwise would arguably be largely unknown to Western chroniclers.

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The Rings of the Elves proved more beneficial to the Free People than the One Ring to its master. If it weren't for mistakes by Sauron and his allies, the Dark Lord would have won the war without the Ring. Had it not been found, he certainly would have won a war of attrition.
Sauron took a great risk with the Rings of Power yes, but had this deception worked exactly as planned the rewards would have been huge. I didn't work exactly as planned, as we know, and so yes Sauron himself paid the price.

Last edited by Galin; 06-17-2009 at 09:07 PM.
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