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Originally Posted by Groin Redbeard
On the other hand, Shagrat was sharp to grasp the situation around him and quick to react to the circumstances. Shagrat shows more independency than Grima.
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Well, interesting, isn't it? He was not "independant" in the sense of duty: he remained faithful to the orders from above. However, I daresay that was exactly what showed his, hmm, virtue (if you can find something like that with an Orc... but apparently, you can)? I mean: he was able to overcome his selfish greed (which he certainly had like a good Orc) and he was able to decide for himself,
independantly indeed, to follow his duties, even if it meant facing Gorbag and a scary Great Elven Warrior. Hey, how nice.
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Originally Posted by Tuor in Gondolin
Shagrat (or his chum Gorbag) could have made for one of the
Professor's semi-throwaway stories (no doubt uncovered
in a philological investigation into the origin of orcish) or
perhaps as part of a "Concerning Orcs" section at the end of
LOTR. Perhaps something like the bit on the Druedain in
Unfinished Tales.
Then again one can imagine a chronicler in Gondor penning
a revisionist "Grima's Tale" with a sympathetic backstory
of unrequited love, working to save Rohan from inevitable
destruction, etc.
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Aah yes, indeed
(I like both the ideas.)
Hmm, so what... I might as well flip a coin.
We need some more Orcs.
++Shagrat