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Old 02-03-2009, 03:05 PM   #1018
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Lari
Menel, what do you mean when you say you understand Lari's Sagittarius comment? Lari suggested lynching Frodo if xe revealed. Wolfish idea. Thought Ferny is not a threat. Some odd questions about the roles, they make her seem more innocent. Of course it's possible she's playing the newbie card again, though, which she did succesfully in last game. Voted Lommy on day 1 echoing others' reasons without even mentioning them in her post, didn't elaborate much. Kept going after Dury for meta-reasons. Could have helped prevent the possible lynching of Mac or Brinn on day 1, but introduced a new candidate. What was suspicious about Nerwen's vote on day 1?
Reasons to vote Dury on day 2 bad. Jumpy about being suspected.
When Lommy & Brinn came out as seers, she said they both have a known dead innocent on their lists (Lommy had Mac, Brinn Rune). How could she know if they are innocent or not? Looks like a possible wolf slip. Later she said she knows Rune is not dead & it was not a slip. But back then she didn't know which seer to believe.
Brinn had both Lari and sally listed as guilty at some point, before Frodo was turned. Lari has come across more suspicious after the incident. Her response to my analysis was somewhat elusive - half-joking retaliatory accusations.
She brings up points against the wraiths being inexperienced.
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Originally Posted by Lari on Menel
I don't really know what that means, maybe that he's more innocent than not because he thinks that Brinn is on "our side".
Huh? In a way I understand what Lari means, but this comment looks darn fishy. It reminds me of the way Lariwolf tried to contact Borocobbler in last game. Later she says Menel seems the most innocent to her. After some flip-flopping on Mac she says he's a known innocent and she doesn't vote for him.
Suggests there are high chances that the wolves were considered more innocent than not on Rikae's chart. She was in the second-most innocent category hereself. Her going on about Rune & what Rikae's death might mean for him is weird. Reasons for suspecting him are eg. his fight with Brinn, sally making a song about him... Today she suggests Legate didn't suspect the wolves as they wouldn't have wanted to kill him otherwise. Hardly surprising, given that she was one of his main suspects.
Currently Lari looks the most suspicious to me.

Mira
When responding to other things I brought up in my analysis, you forgot this. I ask again because I'm curious.
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Originally Posted by me
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Originally Posted by Mira on Mac
Or he could have made that "slip" unintentionally and is trying to lure you off the pace of the real wraiths. Just an idea.
Sorry I'm slow but what did you mean with this?
Reacts newbie-wolfishly to accusations at times. Voted for Lommy, who she hasn't mentioned earlier, for flip-flopping on day 1. If she had voted for Mac (who had more votes), she would have helped prevent Brinn's possible lynching. Found Dury suspicious all of a sudden on day 2 after other people had started suspecting her.
I still don't understand how Mac can see her "Nope " comment as a slip.
Rikae had her listed as red, saying there isn't much against her being a wraith, and she died the following night. I'm not sure a wolf would want to bring attention upon herself like that, but then again she hasn't received very much suspicion afterwards.
Yesterday she voted for Lari. I thought about them being possible fellows after Legate's death, but in the end I don't think there would be two new wolves, or that they'd kill people who lead so clearly back to them.
There are some suspicious things, but on the other hand I really doubt she would have voted Lommy on day 1 if her fellow was in danger of lynching. Except I think Mac mentioned something about her defending him after his cobbler slip... So I suppose it's possible she's a wolf and didn't want to vote for her presumed cobbler, either.
Gah I have no idea what to think. She isn't my primary concern, but I'm also afraid of letting her go by unnoticed and win like Lari did in last game.

Menel
Flip-flops on Mac. He seemed to trust Brinn pretty much, and in the battle of the seers he was first on Brinn's side. I doubt a wolf would do that so openly - it'd be a pretty bold move. "On our side" phrasing bothers me. In his next post he considered it certainly possible that she was a wraith, after all. What happened in the meanwhile?
Yesterday he voted Mira because he trusted Legate who had narrowed the field down to her, me, and Menel himself (which Menel didn't mention, though). He defends Lari, saying she doesn't look suspicious at all, and even though there are these minor things, she probably had reasons for them, and she's still rather new and such. Those twain's interaction looks somewhat fishy. If one is a baddie, I wouldn't be surprised if the other was as well.
However, Menel's thoughts on Greenie look honest to me. But I suspected her myself as well so I don't think I can be perfectly objective about it. He retracted and voted Greenie.
Today he suggested Mac could be the cobbler. He voted for Mac consistently for I don't remember how long and was clearly suspicious of him, so it comes as a bit of a surprise if he hasn't thought about it earlier. He adds, though, that he wouldn't vote for him today even if he is the cobbler, as "we've got bigger problems to take care of." Well, if we don't lynch either a wolf or the cobbler today, chances are fair tomorrow is our last day... Rikae had him listed as Yellow along with Rune, saying Mac's guilt would look good on him. Not sure if that applies to him anymore, though.
Actually Menel strikes me as a bit cobblerish, too. I have hard time trying to imagine a wolf defending a fellow-pretending-to-be-the-seer so straightforward. I find him less wolfish than Lari but more than Mira.

Mac
I still think he's the cobbler and if we can't come up with anyone else, he should be lynched.

Innocent

Nerwen. Interaction with Brinn & sally doesn't look wolfish. She was among the first to point out suspicious behaviour in them. Also, the nightly kills don't look like she could be behind them. I think she'd be too bold a wolf to kill off the loudest & dangerous players when there are plenty of quieter & more inexperienced around.

Rune. His fight with Brinn & interaction with sally make him look good. The biggest contributor, though, is his overall behaviour, which isn't very wolfish. Especially his last post had a pretty innocent air. It just doesn't look like something a wolf would think.

Berry. The one I'm the least certain about (good job - finding only two innocents in a village of eight ). He has been looking quite innocent, but he's also been flying under my radar. It's late and I have an exam tomorrow so I'm not going to go through his posts properly now. I could do it toMorrow if I'm still alive though.


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Reading through the thread made me miss sally. Be Prepared still cracked me up. And Rikae is making me laugh, too. Such a pity she died.

I also miss the Saucepan Man, although this is completely irrelevant to the game.

I'm going to vote soon and go to sleep. However, since I need to be at school shortly after deadline, anyway, I could wake up a bit earlier and sacrifice some time for werewolfing in the morning.
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