[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

I wouldn't draw hasty conclusions.

Like that you would be dreamed of in the first Days of the game tp... It was just the "yesterGame" Rune was the seer and he picked up the submarines or those who were hard to figure in the "middle" leaving the loudmouths to reveal themselves by actual posting and their action - and why bother as the fearsome enemies of the wolves that the people tend to trust for their stature get killed pretty soon anyway so it's a dream wasted. In the end-game one needs as many living innocents there can be. What's the worth of a known innocent who is killed by the wolves?

I mean I shouldn't be doing this but sorry, you should think of this a second time if you're an innocent. And in the same time I will be at least partly answering your concerns about my points on you yesterday.

So let's take this one fex.:

Originally Posted by tp

Once again, this quote is fairly straightforward. Brin said that Boro and I should never have brought up the ploy. I respond, giving her the reason that we did discuss it- to build further trust. A logical answer to the question, is it not?

That reason you give is plausible indeed. I can think of you two trying to bring forwards trust between yourselves and getting all the more assured about it (although I think Boro has some bad experiences with that from the past... ). That is possible. Sure. And logical.

But. How come you think we others might believe it - or why do you protest if we don't? How about a few bright wolves did the same and said to an innocent you, not part of that plot that is, that you must believe them because "You people wonder why we're trusting each other? Um, maybe because we're doing things to build trust"? You'd be head on with it, wouldn't you? Isn't that a bit circular reasoning to begin with? And why should anyone outside the circle believe what you say? We have only your word that you were "building trust" and not playing a scheme you had planned during the Night!

Do you take someone, anyone, by his word in this game tp? Do you? If I say my case is rational (which it is btw.) and I only think for the good of the village, do you trust that? Just because I say it is logical - and it is. Would you take me to my word if I said I'm annoyed because you don't trust my logical case?

You should know better. And I think you do. Good wolves are perfectly cabable of constructing sensible, rational, logical explanations of the things that have happened. So why do you think we should trust you just because you have a logical explanation to things?

My theory of you and Boro is a logical one as well - and I think fits all the details. So it's true... Surrender guys, you're caught!

But you say it's only one possibility, right? But so is you and Boro just finding each other innocent just one possibility.

You would disagree with my case of you two being wolves - whether it was true or not - with that it was just a possibility and not conclusive evidence or a known truth. Guess what I'm thinking about your story about you and Boro?


But enough of this. As I said, you guys are things for the seer to find out. We should not lynch you anyway.

I will listen to you but do not think I will believe what you say without a pinch of salt. Like Boro said: "I have some ammo loaded" if the seer turns out dead with no conclusive info. I have only scraped the surface now...

But so far I'll call it a truce - which I think it has already been for a while.