[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Rune

It still makes his initial reaction seem odd, to run out and say "I am being framed". . . only to "seconds" later proclaim it was all part of the plan.
At the very least it was clumsy.

Well, Rune, wouldn't clumsiness indicate innocence, since as a WW he would've already known the kill in advance and had plenty of time to formulate his position and present it in the best way possible?

Originally Posted by Lommy

I think I've solved the mystery of Boro and phantom - they must be lovers.

He likes football. I like football. It was a match made in heaven.

Originally Posted by me

Now, all of this nonsense about questioning my Seer dream statements. To me, it seems as if you're asking, "You seem sure that you've been a dream already. Who is the Seer, Phantom?"

Originally Posted by Lommy

Ok, fine, well if that's why you think you've been dreamt of - alright. You may have an idea who's the seer and that s/he has dreamt of you. BUT: You cannot expect us to take your word of it and thus it's a very silly argument for your innocence.

I didn't say you had to believe me. If you are an Ordo then naturally there is no possible way you could know for sure, I agree. I am merely explaining why I cannot answer questions like that, as well as putting forth that is is possible that I have spotted something.

Originally Posted by Lommy

I cannot see any reason why the wolves would like to kill you. So don't be silly...

I'm not being silly. If I am indeed Seer dreamed Ordo, and they can't get me lynched, they'll have to Night-kill me at some point.

Originally Posted by Lommy

Lastly, I've been thinking... we shouldn't lynch tp or Boro toDay. However annoying they are. I suggest keeping an eye on them for they are acting mighty suspiciously, but I'd really rather keep them around for a while more (a Day or two) since there is nothing extremely serious against them and they will provide more and more evidence againt or for themselves as the game goes on. You may call me an elitist or a turncloak, I know - but I'd hate to lose players like them in vain. If they're innocent, they're a huge asset to the village.

That is, they would be a huge asset if they weren't such a distraction. I therefore suggest (or to phrase better, echo the earlier suggestions) that we should stop focuing on them like this. And that "we" means all of us, even the gentlemen themselves. We're assisting the wolves by this single-mindedness, especially if Boro and tp are innocent.

Extremely sensible Lommy.

As I was driving home from work, I was thinking to myself, "This entire day pretty much has been Boro and I. Most suspicions have come to revolve around us, or around people's reactions to us. Even mine have pretty much come to line up with those than seem to oppose us. So if I am lynched and found an Ordo, where the heck will the village be able to start with suspicions tomorrow, if all day today was completely Boro-tp centered? Naturally, they'll begin with reactions to the Boro-tp thing that happened the day before. Meaning that the village will still be focused on it. We really need to get past this!"

So yeah, I'm really hoping we can let this thing go soon. I'm totally with you there.

(to be continued...)