[the phantom]

Nogrod- that was a long post, and I can't really find the point of it. Well no- I can find the point that you are attempting to make, but I'm not sure how any of it applies to anything that's been said.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

You know tp that none of these have nothing to do with "clear thinking" you're calling after or are in no way discernible to anyone outside your own head. You call for people to trust you with these!

You said this in reference to some quotes that I made, and I'm not sure how it applies. Let's list these quotes and go through them one by one.

Originally Posted by me

I did express surprise that I was being suspected apparently because I was actively trying to achieve something.

In this quote I was responding to Brin after she gave a mock quote from Boro and I painting us as very arrogant and mean and insulting to others. In my response, I am telling her what the feeling was behind any statement that I had made, and making it clear that it was not mean-spirited.

So I'm not sure what exactly you're trying to prove with that quote.

Originally Posted by me

Well if we're telling the truth, then it's true, isn't it?

In this quote, I am logically pointing out that what she has said about us would be perfectly true if we were innocent, and thus it didn't seem correct that it would be brought up as a point against us.

Once again, I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to prove with that quote. It seems pretty logical to me.

And the final quote-

Originally Posted by me

And the reason we discussed the ploy with each other was simply to see if we were on the same page. Building trust! You people wonder why we're trusting each other? Um, maybe because we're doing things to build trust.

Once again, this quote is fairly straightforward. Brin said that Boro and I should never have brought up the ploy. I respond, giving her the reason that we did discuss it- to build further trust. A logical answer to the question, is it not?

So, seeing as all three quotes you gave were perfectly sensible and addressed specific points in the posts of others, I can hardly see how anything negative can be attributed to them. You say they were low quality, but I fail to see the reasoning. And has not the logic of a great many of my answers today showed quite clearly that those that suspect me have huge gaping holes in their arguments? Far worse than any you've shown in mine.

And I notice that you have not commented whatsoever on some of my extremely sensible posts. I even laid out your "chess match" for you, and asked your opinion, but you ignored it.

It seems to me that you are reading only what you wish and grasping desperately at straws. I am not the one who is "not delivering".

Originally Posted by Nogrod

And your trust may be statistically believable as you say, but if you two are trying to build trust how come you make arguments on statistical probabilities. Isn't trust just the opposite of statistics?

You know good and well that the statistics have nothing to do with our trust. I've only brought up statistics in order to logically demonstrate to others why they shouldn't be so hasty to assign Wolfishness to our trust.