[Shastanis Althreduin]

Originally Posted by Ilya

Success! I found it! I found what bothered me about Aganzir, even though I still have 200 more posts to review. When he voted for Brinn, he said a lot things about her being reason and trustworthly and then:
That's what tipped off my weird-o-meter, although frankly it's not all that much and I suspect him much less now than I did when I wasn't sure why I was bothered. Back to note-taking I go.

Agan's actually a she, Ilya. I had a smiley here, but the smiley limit has been surpassed, so just pretend.

Okay, now I'm going to post my big long post.

Originally Posted by Gwath

I am inclined to think that Nogrod is innocent. It seems unlikely to me that a werewolf, having been voted into power, would proceed to risk alienating half of his constituency by trying to have them executed.

Really not that much of a stretch, considering "half his constituency" was one person. I agree with morm here.

Originally Posted by Phantom

Gil- Strolled in and voted after the deadline. Amused me. I say we all just consider him innocent and call it good.

Because we all know that snap judgements based on single actions work beautifully.

Originally Posted by Phantom

Shasta- That many posts and I still have nothing. I don't like it. He seems to latch onto Lommy's triangle idea, and go for the easy Gil target when it appears, and fueled Legate suspicion. Let's see some meaty posts today, man. Make me think you're innocent.

This is where the annoyance starts. Firstly, all three reasons you have for being "uneasy" with me are extremely flimsy. "Seems to latch onto Lommy's triangle idea." A - because two innocents can't agree, that never happens! and B - that's already been discussed, why are you still bringing it up? "Go for the easy Gil target when it appears," again, A - why was Gil an easy target? B - was it not obvious that Gil and I were bantering? I was hardly serious. and C - I always act that way when Gil's in the game (though I don't expect you to actually know that, considering Gil hasn't played in a while .) "Fueled Legate suspicion." This one might be true, but for the sake of argument I'd like you to point out where I did that. And why it matters, considering that you yourself have "fueled suspicion" on later-proven innocents that you thought were suspicious at the time.

Originally Posted by Boro

That is precisely why I'm quite comfortable with assuming your innocence. Don't you see? Not only are you doing your homework on a couple people within a certain classification, but you're doing your homework on everyone. No matter how daunting the task is, I just wish we could get someone on here who can do the work on you.

Originally Posted by Phantom

Ah, well, glad to hear it!

I'm starting work on you now. If we're lucky I'll still see you as innocent and we can hunt the WWs together.

Are they the same person? It's like they're the same person.

Originally Posted by Boro

This is where I think tp and I virtually see eye-to-eye with when we were both wolves. I know, I've witnessed how paranoid about the seer he can be. We want the seer dead as soon as possible. End of discussion. There was no reason to believe McCaber was the seer from his posts, and I feel sure enough to say that the wolves didn't pick him because they thought he was the seer. They went with option 2, kill someone who wouldn't leave a trail.

But with myself, and definitely tp, there is no option 2. Our choice at night kills are simple, we get the seer, every choice is made with the intention of taking down the seer. Period.

Originally Posted by Phantom

Well, I finished by Boro read. It's what I thought... no bad vibes from him. His choices, the ones I agree with and the ones I don't, seem to have been made genuinely. And he was as dedicated as anyone to actually playing yesterday, in the sense that he attempted to get reactions and attempted to read reactions despite how nearly impossible that is early in the village.

On the other hand I fully expect he'll be lynched before the end because he boldly questions people and he's a scary WW. I might help lynch him if he starts being mean to me. But for now, I'm considering him innocent.

Nothing wrong with considering each other innocent, but you guys are reaaalllly laying it on thick.

Originally Posted by morm

The phantom seems to be setting himself up, on account that many Boro included, think him innocent, to the leadership position. It bothers me and I think there is dnager there. He says he's read everything and then comes up with nothing more than a sentence or two on each person, even those who he suspects. That seems fairly weak. I also wonder why the fact that I brought up, on day one, if anybody wanted any sort of structure to use in rep voting bothers him so much. Yes, I saw his explination but it doesn't make sense to me. Today I stated that I like the odd number and gave my reasoning why. It seems logical to try and keep some order on how many reps we have. Often times we talk, in other games, about how many candidates we want in the pool to make our choice of whom to lynch. It seems fine.

I agree with morm again. But on this:

Originally Posted by morm

What really bothers me though is how Nerwen seems to piggy-back off phantom's ideas. A good number of people assume phantom to be innocent, and honestly I'm okay with that, despite some of my criticisms of him overall I think him genuine but I am keeping a close eye on him because I know of his skill as a wolf and I'm watching for and pointing out any lupine signs I may see. Anyway Nerwen on Day 1 didn't make any sort of impression on me, was overly quiet and reserved. She didn't do or say anything controversial. And now that she feels that the phantom is a fairly well accepted innocent she seems to quickly parrot what the phantom is saying. Her stating that they might have gone after McCaber because they thought he was a ranger sounded awfully strange to me. Gil got a free pass for ignorance so why not give it a try, eh Nerwen? Nerwen just shot up from an unknown to my top suspect based upon what I am seeing and feeling from her.

I disagree. Nerwen seems fairly thoughtful and innocent to me.

Originally Posted by Lommy

Shasta - good points have been made against him but my gut-feeling has nothing against him. So...

What good points, Lommy? Point them out for me, cause I don't see any.

Originally Posted by Greenie

Shasta - Now he has been posting quite a lot, but still I have no idea about him.

Now you're about the third person to say that, and I'm starting to become frustrated with it. I am being as clear as I know how to be with my thoughts and opinions; I really don't know what you people want from me! *sigh*

Originally Posted by Morm

Another word is puppetmaster...you don't really see him but he is controlling the show. I think that what Lommy feels and I do too to a degree.

The above is re: Phantom. I agree. And I don't like puppetmasters. Cut my strings, please.

Originally Posted by Phantom

When's the last time you couldn't say this about me? It rather seems like suspecting person X because they are, in fact, person X.

Perhaps I should suspect Nogrod for posting more than once yesterday. Or perhaps I'll suspect Brin for posting in English.

I understand the defensiveness, but the ridicule's a bit much.

Originally Posted by Ilya

Ok, now I really am going to go reread the thread, and not just post that I'm reading it and instead go to YouTube.

I've done that!

After reading again, I'm still getting a bad vibe from The Ka, and I don't know why. As for reps, I could vote Brinn, Agan, Greenie, Morm, or Nerwen today.