Hmm while reading our brawl I figured I maybe shouldn't be so aggressive towards Lommy when accusing her because then she just becomes annoyed and it's harder to read her.
What happened after things got heated:
Shasta made a list of players, including Lommy and me as brawling innocents.
Phantom hoped our argument wouldn't be a waste of time and thought it would help to get a feel for us. He thought I'm innocent.
Nog thought I had better arguments but Lommy felt better (genuinely frustrated, although he pointed out that a wolf could feel frustration, too) so he reached the conclusion that we're both just quarrelling innocents.
Ilya didn't know what to make of Shasta's jumping on Gil multiple times, but to her it looked more suspicious than our brawl. I don't think their thing was very suspicious, though.
Boro didn't like how I backed off of Lommy after "a couple people" had said she looks genuinely frustrated. I think I was actually the first to say that - my backing off happened between Shasta & phantom's posts.
He also accused me of trying to deny I had a case against Lommy. Later he considered voting for me.
According to Ilya, I backed off of Lommy in a way that parroted what a lot of other people had said, and she didn't know what to think of that. I find this ignorant if not downright suspicious - it's rather she who's parroting what other people (Boro) have said instead of checking the facts herself. She's throwing a thing in the open without a comment of her own, like, "Look at this and reach your own conclusions! *wink wink*", and that's something I don't particularly like. Besides, before Boro people had just said Lommy and I were probably innocent, and it's weird how quickly Ilya's opinion changed (from not knowing what to think but apparently not finding very suspicious to suspecting) after accusations had seemingly started to pop up.
Morm found me innocent but didn't comment on our quarrel at first. Later he said he could find little merit in either argument and both Lommy and I were innocent.
Brinn thought both Lommy and me are ordos.
Other people either weren't around or didn't find our argument worth commenting.
Of these Ilya's reaction seems the most suspicious to me.
And I'm somehow surprised why so many people just labeled us as fighting innocents because
1) Lommy didn't seem innocent to me at all, except maybe in her replies
2) I can understand also those who thought I had weak points against her.
If Lommy's innocent, wouldn't it have been better for the wolves to encourage our suspicions of each other? But if she's a wolf, could she have fooled everybody, even with a lot of pressure on her? Or were the wolves just not around to take advantage of two innocents tearing each other apart? Or what.
If Lommy's a wolf, I could see Boro's reaction as wolfish as well since he attacked me for attacking Lommy. On the other hand it's also possible that he just wanted to try me so as to see if I broke under the pressure. But I have a bit hard time trying to see his reaction as honest - it looked like he was up to something.
Garr there are a thousand possible options and I don't want to spend all my time left on this so I'll leave it here and see if something occurs to me later.
I'm unlikely to x with anyone since I've kept refreshing the thread every now and then because thinking is so boring.
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