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					Originally Posted by  Feanor of the Peredhil
					 
				 
				They yelled at me (literally) and told me I was dead wrong and didn't know what I was talking about. 
 
Hence Orthanc.  I like debate, but not when people take it personally. 
			
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 I see your point. . . The worst I get is 5 people shaking their heads after I speak, they might laugh depending on how I present my case and then we go get coffee, tea, soda or beer depending on the time of day.