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skip spence · 11-12-2008, 03:03 AM

Inziladun, I don't believe that quote (spoken by Mandos, if I remember correctly) means that Fingolfin, or any other Elf, couldn't in theory 'kill' Morgoth. Morgoth was incarnate at this time and his physical manifestation could be destroyed, which would 'kill' him. As has been said, Fingolfin hurt him repeatedly and of all the Valar he was the only one to know fear. My interpretation is that it was fate that none of the Noldor would be able to defeat Morgoth. Fingolfin was just not meant to win and remember, Mandos knows all that is to come. The Noldor were cursed because of their rebellion and evil deeds, and only by repenting and begging for forgiveness could they be delivered.

11-12-2008, 03:03 AM	#6
skip spence shadow of a doubt Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Back on the streets Posts: 1,125	Inziladun, I don't believe that quote (spoken by Mandos, if I remember correctly) means that Fingolfin, or any other Elf, couldn't in theory 'kill' Morgoth. Morgoth was incarnate at this time and his physical manifestation could be destroyed, which would 'kill' him. As has been said, Fingolfin hurt him repeatedly and of all the Valar he was the only one to know fear. My interpretation is that it was fate that none of the Noldor would be able to defeat Morgoth. Fingolfin was just not meant to win and remember, Mandos knows all that is to come. The Noldor were cursed because of their rebellion and evil deeds, and only by repenting and begging for forgiveness could they be delivered. __________________ "You can always come back, but you can't come back all the way" ~ Bob Dylan Last edited by skip spence; 11-12-2008 at 03:21 AM.