[Formendacil]

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

Then we have the battle of the egos - Formy, Noggin Boro and probably others.

While there is clearly ego in play, I wish it to stand for the record that my vigorous defence is solely motivated by a desire to see Tolkien's works as Tolkien's work--not as some fanfictionated, Hollywoodised, Dungeons-and-Dragons, Dwarf-belching crap.

Originally Posted by Nilpaurion Felagund

It has been foresung that I should do what I have done. Dare you take arms against fate, Master Canonist? Know you then what befell Túrin, who in his ignorance called himself Turambar, but was caught in the fate he thought he had mastered?

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Why have we been called here together? Are we not all here to take the selfsame journey to Orodruin, using to the utmost all the strength of our wits and intuition, and trusting Eru that he will step into the resounding theme of evil and repay our estel?

Surely you, of all people, Master Felagund, have forgotten the Doom of Men? Just because the Ainulindalë says only that the Third Theme (the Children of Ilúvatar) were conceived in the mind of Eru alone does not mean you could not step outside of your most favoured book and realise that the Doom of Men means both that:

Men are not bound to fate.

And, I'm afraid, escaping the circles of Arda is looking entirely too easy at the moment.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Now please Form and Nilp, even if the situation is grave we shouldn't forget the basic principles the B-W has established. So no flaming or personal vendetta's here. They are not only against good manners but also tend to confuse our preliminary task of finding out the villains.

You'll clearly never be made moderator if you can't distinguish between flaming and a serious discussion. Nilp and I may differ on several key points, but at least we can dialogue, which is more than can be said for certain members.